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Fiscal Restraint

I wish someone in Congress had some....


I just want to be clear to every Republican/right-winger that has argued that Democrats/liberals are responsible for our ridiculous deficit and national debt -- the tax cut bill and the budget increase that just got through a Congress that Republicans control, with a Republican POTUS signing into law (presumably), clearly establishes that it's all just talk.

NEITHER PARTY gives a damn about the deficit or debt, and neither party can claim any moral high ground on the topic.

Which sucks for all Americans IMHO.

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Old 02-08-2018, 09:01 AM   #2
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:02 AM   #3
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Nothing to disagree with here.

As a representative of my business, I will always want to reduce my tax load, which directly affects my margins.

But to nuke taxes without touching spending is just completely ****ing retarded. And it's not like there aren't easy dollars out there to get on the spending side.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:03 AM   #4
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Nothing to disagree with here.

As a representative of my business, I will always want to reduce my tax load, which directly affects my margins.

But to nuke taxes without touching spending is just completely ****ing retarded. And it's not like there aren't easy dollars out there to get on the spending side.

We've nuked taxes, and now we're increasing spending. HOORAY!

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Old 02-08-2018, 09:04 AM   #5
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I wish someone in Congress had some....


I just want to be clear to every Republican/right-winger that has argued that Democrats/liberals are responsible for our ridiculous deficit and national debt -- the tax cut bill and the budget increase that just got through a Congress that Republicans control, with a Republican POTUS signing into law (presumably), clearly establishes that it's all just talk.

NEITHER PARTY gives a damn about the deficit or debt, and neither party can claim any moral high ground on the topic.

Which sucks for all Americans IMHO.

It's a shame democrats are holding our military hostage and extorting expanded non-military discretionary spending out of us. Thanks, democrats.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:04 AM   #6
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Full agreement. This trickle down is going to fail as badly as Kansas's tax cut did.

They really need to cut defense spending significantly. I know it's a sacred cow but 700 billion, I guarantee you you can squeeze out 60 70 billion in fat.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:06 AM   #7
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We've nuked taxes, and now we're increasing spending. HOORAY!

Just like Brownback.

At least the economy of the country has an opportunity to respond quickly and lessen the deficit marginally. KS had no shot.
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Who cares about the debt? Seriously who cares?
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Who cares about the debt? Seriously who cares?
The democrats care... when Republicans are in office. But not enough to restrain their spending impulses.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:10 AM   #10
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This is the biggest disappointment from Donald. I hoped he would go through department by department and force a business style review of dollars and benefits and cut every place he could. And he should veto this bullshit. But the Rs are wedded to Military $ and Schumer cut a fat deal to get money for wasteful democrat bullshit. Now we have to pray DACA is small, limited, and we start cleaning up that mess
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The democrats care... when Republicans are in office. But not enough to restrain their spending impulses.
Turn off Fox News, the deficit shrank significantly under Obama.
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The democrats care... when Republicans are in office. But not enough to restrain their spending impulses.
Well that's true.

Obummer in the Senate claimed it was immoral to pass on this much debt. Then....he doubled it!
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Turn off Fox News, the deficit shrank significantly under Obama.
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It's a shame democrats are holding our military hostage and extorting expanded non-military discretionary spending out of us. Thanks, democrats.
Republicans are blameless?
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Republicans prioritized national defense over restraining democrat spending.
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