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Old 10-17-2017, 05:46 AM  
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There’s No Excuse for ‘Conservative’ Shout-Downs

No, There’s No Excuse for ‘Conservative’ Shout-Downs

by DAVID FRENCH October 16, 2017 11:02 AM


As Stanley Kurtz noted on Friday, pro-Trump protesters shouted-down California Attorney General Xavier Becerra and California State Assembly Leader Ian Calderon during an appearance at California’s Whittier College. This is a terrible development.

Thus far the shout-down has been a predominantly far-Left tactic, one that’s spreading even to the point where progressives are turning on progressives (witness the recent Black Lives Matter shout-down of an ACLU speaker at William & Mary.) It’s shameful, it’s unlawful at public universities, and it violates the student code of conduct at private universities. The answer to the shout-down is the rule of law. The answer is the Constitution.

Yet there are some “conservatives” who justify this new escalation (just like they justify public calls to fire radical professors who engage in offensive — but constitutionally-protected — speech) as a form of “fighting fire with fire.” It’s censorship in the name of freedom, and by making the Left “live under its own rules,” they’ll make the Left more reasonable.

This is as silly as it is unprincipled.

The radical Left simply doesn’t view the world the way these conservatives believe they do. They don’t care if Xavier Becerra speaks or doesn’t speak. They’re not truly grieved in the least that he was shouted down. After all, the heckling, disrupting wing of the Left barely tolerates most Democratic politicians. Instead, they see the world through the prism not of persuasion but mobilization, and the emergence of right-wing lawlessness is God’s gift to their own efforts to “take the streets.” It’s God’s gift to their own efforts to tell more moderate members of the Left that the Right cares nothing for the Constitution and only seeks power.

Here’s a radical idea. Let’s defend free speech by defending free speech. It’s the right thing to do, and it actually does work. This is not the first time we’ve seen a wave of campus shout-downs (the shout-down was a common radical left tactic when I was in law school). It ultimately receded then, and it will recede again — through public accountability and application of the rule of law.

The right-wing mob will only make things worse, but then again I’m not sure the mob cares. To them, the “fight” matters far more than the Constitution. It’s brown shirts versus red shirts. They are who they hate, and if either side wins, America will most certainly lose.


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Old 10-17-2017, 09:39 AM   #16
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Nobody should feel sorry for French.


He started attacking Trump and his followers long before they started attacking him in response.


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Old 10-17-2017, 09:46 AM   #17
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Now you have returned to make a fourth straight post to let us know this person's opinion isn't worth a moment of your time... and to make an ad hominem distraction to the points being made.

I think we are well into flail territory now for the CP Trump camp...
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:56 AM   #18
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Nobody should feel sorry for French.


He started attacking Trump and his followers long before they started attacking him in response.


The rule of life is: don't throw a punch if you don't want one thrown back.
Not really relevant to anything....
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:57 AM   #19
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There's no excuse for shout downs, period.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:29 AM   #20
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Not really relevant to anything....
Of course it is. He's demanding conservatives stand up for "free speech", br Frenchie himself demanded Trump followers stop posting meanie things at him and his wife. And scrubbed her blog of offensive posts before she could see them.


He doesn't believe in free speech at all.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:30 AM   #21
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can someone post pics or a vid of this incident?

when SJWs do their Maoist call-outs, there's almost always multiple videos

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these shout-downs are always wrong, no matter who is doing the shouting. but the blame ultimately lies with the colleges that permit and invite this behavior.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:23 AM   #22
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:49 AM   #23
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It makes no sense for liberty loving Americans to surrender their first Amendment right to free speech and their second Amendment right to own semi-automatic weapons to hate filled radical authoritarian mobs. You can't fight tyranny with kind words and wishful thinking.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:51 AM   #24
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There's no excuse for shout downs, period.
Except when loons don't listen, or GOD forbid they get into positions of power. So pretty much there is a need always.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:17 PM   #25
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I agree with the premise, but then.....

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It’s brown shirts versus red shirts.
Could have made the point without those.
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hmm, it doesn't seem as riotous as the media portrayed it to be. 3 guys heckled the CA AG
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Now you have returned to make a fourth straight post to let us know this person's opinion isn't worth a moment of your time... and to make an ad hominem distraction to the points being made.

I think we are well into flail territory now for the CP Trump camp...

Same as when a celebrity says something...page after page of people explaining how they 'don't care.'
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:47 PM   #28
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Using an opponent's tactics against him is often a perfectly valid act. The right's losing mentality of "we can't stoop that low" is why the left has been kicking the right's ass in the culture wars for decades.

Sometimes you have to make the other side realize that their tactics are just as effective against them as they are against their opponents.

And, yes, Mr. French, if the left is going to use firings for speech as a weapon against the right, the right needs to start using firings for speech as a weapon against the left, until the left knocks it the **** off.
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Nobody should feel sorry for French.


He started attacking Trump and his followers long before they started attacking him in response.


The rule of life is: don't throw a punch if you don't want one thrown back.
I remember that. French was and still is a CUCK!
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Man you come up with the biggest collection of pussy-ass loser "conned-servatices" in the media. You know: the folks who haven't made a lick of difference to anyone's lives these last 30 years
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