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Old 10-17-2017, 05:46 AM  
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There’s No Excuse for ‘Conservative’ Shout-Downs

No, There’s No Excuse for ‘Conservative’ Shout-Downs

by DAVID FRENCH October 16, 2017 11:02 AM


As Stanley Kurtz noted on Friday, pro-Trump protesters shouted-down California Attorney General Xavier Becerra and California State Assembly Leader Ian Calderon during an appearance at California’s Whittier College. This is a terrible development.

Thus far the shout-down has been a predominantly far-Left tactic, one that’s spreading even to the point where progressives are turning on progressives (witness the recent Black Lives Matter shout-down of an ACLU speaker at William & Mary.) It’s shameful, it’s unlawful at public universities, and it violates the student code of conduct at private universities. The answer to the shout-down is the rule of law. The answer is the Constitution.

Yet there are some “conservatives” who justify this new escalation (just like they justify public calls to fire radical professors who engage in offensive — but constitutionally-protected — speech) as a form of “fighting fire with fire.” It’s censorship in the name of freedom, and by making the Left “live under its own rules,” they’ll make the Left more reasonable.

This is as silly as it is unprincipled.

The radical Left simply doesn’t view the world the way these conservatives believe they do. They don’t care if Xavier Becerra speaks or doesn’t speak. They’re not truly grieved in the least that he was shouted down. After all, the heckling, disrupting wing of the Left barely tolerates most Democratic politicians. Instead, they see the world through the prism not of persuasion but mobilization, and the emergence of right-wing lawlessness is God’s gift to their own efforts to “take the streets.” It’s God’s gift to their own efforts to tell more moderate members of the Left that the Right cares nothing for the Constitution and only seeks power.

Here’s a radical idea. Let’s defend free speech by defending free speech. It’s the right thing to do, and it actually does work. This is not the first time we’ve seen a wave of campus shout-downs (the shout-down was a common radical left tactic when I was in law school). It ultimately receded then, and it will recede again — through public accountability and application of the rule of law.

The right-wing mob will only make things worse, but then again I’m not sure the mob cares. To them, the “fight” matters far more than the Constitution. It’s brown shirts versus red shirts. They are who they hate, and if either side wins, America will most certainly lose.


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Old 10-19-2017, 06:10 PM   #166
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What would you tell a Christian who believes Jesus loves Africans but yet stuck them in dire poverty and misery?
Do you mean "why do people suffer?"
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Old 10-19-2017, 06:11 PM   #167
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Your willful obtuseness does you no favors. The thread was about shouting people down, not taking clubs to heads.
The days of intelligent conversation are over.

Pick a side or get out of the way long enough for the wing-tards to rip each other to pieces...
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Do you mean "why do people suffer?"
Yeah. Why do a billion suffer while the other billion live in tremendous wealth?
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Yeah. Why do a billion suffer while the other billion live in tremendous wealth?
Why do they?
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Yeah. Why do a billion suffer while the other billion live in tremendous wealth?
We don't need to ask why. You told us the answer yesterday:

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Let's try again: why did God condemn 1 billion Africans to poverty and misery if he "loves them"?
So then, why in your view is he "condemning" Africa to "poverty and misery" while he blesses others with "tremendous wealth"?
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There's plenty of conservative shout downs right in this forum.
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Tell me he isn't just looking to molest an entire gaggle of grade school boys at the nearest youth soccer tourney


He is a guest tonite on Bill Maher. That's what REAL connedservatives do.
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He is a guest tonite on Bill Maher. That's what REAL connedservatives do.
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She talks up Trump and pisses off the audience.


Let's see if French does the same tonight.
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It's not "insisting on a level playing field" to say "if you riot and trash our events and silence our speakers we'll do the same to you". It's lowering yourself to their level and becoming one half of the downward spiral.

Apes bashing each other's skulls with bones while they hoo-call and screech to intimidate each other is supposed to be behind us in history, not something that people are fighting to bring back.
dayum, i have to put you up on that pantheon of men of integrity and principle who are willing to speak truth to power the mob.

as in french mob during the revolution doing that muslim thing all day every day (you know, cutting people's heads off)...

these vultures around here are just like their dear leader: they attack everyone who doesn't share their delusional devotion to the most-smartest-more-than-einstein best-words-speaking self-promoting charlatan in all of history...

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no, in all the universe!!

no, in the entire space time spectrum or whatever they call that shit!!!

lock 'em up! lock 'em up!
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dayum, i have to put you up on that pantheon of men of integrity and principle who are willing to speak truth to power the mob.

as in french mob during the revolution doing that muslim thing all day every day (you know, cutting people's heads off)...

these vultures around here are just like their dear leader: they attack everyone who doesn't share their delusional devotion to the most-smartest-more-than-einstein best-words-speaking self-promoting charlatan in all of history...

no, in all of time...

no, in all the universe!!

no, in the entire space time spectrum or whatever they call that shit!!!

lock 'em up! lock 'em up!
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