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Old 07-31-2014, 01:23 PM  
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***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II***

Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.

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Old 11-18-2014, 09:13 AM   #3916
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So in terms of Heyward, do you approach him about an extension now or wait?
Now. His value is at an ebb.

Offer him 10/200 (yes, it will take that much) with an out after six years or 6/130.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:26 AM   #3917
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That's kinda what I was thinking. You hope with a change in scenery and a change in approach he could be a corner ofer (already the best rfer in baseball defensively) and be a .300 20 ish homer guy with good obp and ops.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:06 AM   #3918
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Now. His value is at an ebb.

Offer him 10/200 (yes, it will take that much) with an out after six years or 6/130.
No way Boras lets him sign a long term deal at the possible bottom of his potential worth.

But, if he would sign, go for it. His defense isn't going away, stealing bases ain't going away. We need those skills badly. His WAR is already top level in the league. He can only get better at age 25.

We have been paying $17 million year for Holliday. After the new CBA kicks in, that's at least = to $20 Million per year, probably closer to $22 million. Hollidays money was close to top $ when he signed. We have $20 million freed up and can increase our payroll at least another $10-20 million from last year. Goold thinks we can have a $150 million payroll.
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:05 PM   #3919
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Dunno that they'll get a deal done before. He's gonna want to wait
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:20 PM   #3920
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No way Boras lets him sign a long term deal at the possible bottom of his potential worth.

But, if he would sign, go for it. His defense isn't going away, stealing bases ain't going away. We need those skills badly. His WAR is already top level in the league. He can only get better at age 25.

We have been paying $17 million year for Holliday. After the new CBA kicks in, that's at least = to $20 Million per year, probably closer to $22 million. Hollidays money was close to top $ when he signed. We have $20 million freed up and can increase our payroll at least another $10-20 million from last year. Goold thinks we can have a $150 million payroll.
That isn't the bottom of his worth. He had a good year.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:40 PM   #3921
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That isn't the bottom of his worth. He had a good year.
He had a bad year for him. His upside is so high that the bar is high for him.

I'm all for giving him Hollidays money and sign him for 10 years. He's 25 not 31 unlike most of the ball players that sign these $100+Million contracts. Defense isn't going away. Speed will be there for another 5 years at least. By all accounts a good guy in the locker room, active in charitable deeds in the community. Sounds like a guy we can root for.
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He had a bad year for him. His upside is so high that the bar is high for him.

I'm all for giving him Hollidays money and sign him for 10 years. He's 25 not 31 unlike most of the ball players that sign these $100+Million contracts. Defense isn't going away. Speed will be there for another 5 years at least. By all accounts a good guy in the locker room, active in charitable deeds in the community. Sounds like a guy we can root for.
He had the second best year of his career by fWAR by a comfortable margin.

Also, he has five years of service time in. Although 27 was formerly the career year barometer, post PEDs evidence points to new info: 1) 25-6 is more likely to be the career year and 2) if a player breaks into the big leagues at a very early age, like Heyward did, he's generally as skilled as he's ever going to be.

Mike Trout, for example, is not going to go from putting up 10 WAR seasons to 12 to 14 over the next five years. This Trout is as good as any Trout you'll see. Similarly, this is the best Heyward you'll see, and that's fine. At this point in his career, his hit tool is what it is.
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Old 11-24-2014, 01:18 PM   #3923
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Red Sox going full Yankee again, tossing 40 million per year combined at a fatass 3B and shortstop who plays 95 games a year.
mo problem for them. It blows up in their face. It's just money. Plenty more where that came from.
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Old 11-24-2014, 03:49 PM   #3925
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Cards sign Mark Reynolds.
If anything, it's some pop of the bench.

I wonder if we'll hate him like we hated Chris Duncan?
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If anything, it's some pop of the bench.
Better than Ellis, Kozma, Robinson and Delcalso off the bench late.
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