Chiefs The case for Rex Ryan as new DC - Page 4

**BossChief** · 01-22-2019, 01:52 PM

Here’s why I’d be happy bringing in Rex Ryan to coach the defense...

1st is we wouldn’t need to overhaul the entire defense as the schemes are similar...but the philosophy is different.

Bob Sutton’s years as NYJs DC team rankings

First year
13th yards ...6th in points
2nd year
18th yards...19th points
3rd year
17th yards...18th points

Rex Ryan takes over HC the following year in09

1st year
1st in yards...1st in points

2nd year
3rd in yards....6th in points

Drastic and immediate improvement

More stats to come on why I think Rex would be a good hire...

RaidersOftheCellar · 01-22-2019, 02:30 PM

So what's the history here...

He immediately turned a crap Sutton defense into one of the league's best, then immediately ruined Buffalo's D? Any insight?

chiefzilla1501 · 01-22-2019, 02:32 PM

His own players turned on him because his defense wasn't even close to aggressive as pettines. And pettine learned from Ryan. Overcomplicared, too conservative... Just seems like we're checking the same boxes again.

TLO · 01-22-2019, 02:33 PM

*insert joke about feet here*

Abba-Dabba · 01-22-2019, 02:35 PM

Boy, so many questions.

Why would Andy Reid want an ex-HC coaching under him? Has he ever had an ex-HC coach under him? 2 huge ego's in the same box? How does Reid view the relationship? Underling? How does Rex Ryan view the relationship? Co-HC?

Great thing is that the list of talented coaches willing to come into the Chiefs situation has to be fairly large.

Chiefnj2 · 01-22-2019, 02:35 PM

In an interview with ESPN's Josina Anderson, Bills defensive tackle Marcell Dareus said that "everybody's job is on the line" on the team.

"I like Rex, personally," Dareus said. "I don't like to see anyone get fired.

"Everyone is fighting for their position, so we're at a point where we have to make a change."

Asked why he thought the Bills' defense seemed to regress under Ryan, Dareus told Anderson that he believes "we should've been more aggressive on defense ... because that's the kind of players we have."

"We want to put our foot on the pedal and keep it down knowing what we're doing and being strategic on what we're doing," Dareus said. "Not trying to match up with this team or that team. We want to have our identity [knowing] this is who we are and what we're going to do."

Dareus indicated Ryan's defense was too complicated.

"It was just too much detail for a lot of guys, and I feel like for a lot of guys it was too much going on for them to check here and check there, if this happens and that happens," he said. "Then nine times out of 10, a team will throw something out there that we weren't prepared for -- and then the adjustment to it we had to get used to and try to make it happen and make plays."

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 01-22-2019, 02:36 PM

Louis Riddick said last night that Reid needs to hire a DC who will let him control the defense. He said Reid is always next to Mahomes after every drive but never with the defense. Rex Ryan fits that profile to a T. Someone who was a coach before and can be trusted to handle the defense by himself. I’m all for this hire. He knows what needs to be done to fix this defense.

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2019, 02:38 PM

CP just got it's offseason burst. We're about to be completely ****ing divided on our DC.

In58men · 01-22-2019, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest

Will never get a coaching job in KC. Get over it.

Why?

What did I miss?

**The Franchise** · 01-22-2019, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men

Why?

What did I miss?

In 1987, he was acquired by the Kansas City Chiefs to play outside linebacker, reuniting him with former Saints defensive coordinator John Paul Young. He started 9 games at right outside linebacker, tallying 45 tackles, 2 sacks and one forced fumble.

That season the NFL players went on strike. Throughout this period of time, Del Rio and teammates picketed outside of Arrowhead stadium and were vigilantly watching for replacement players attempting to enter the facility. Del Rio mistakenly mistook former Chiefs wide receiver Otis Taylor for a replacement player and assaulted him. At the time, Taylor was a scout for the Chiefs organization and had been retired for 12 years. Chiefs fans who came across the assault told Del Rio that Taylor was actually an 11-year veteran and legend in the Kansas City Chiefs organization. Taylor would later press charges and the two would settle out of court.[11]

Baster mater · 01-22-2019, 02:42 PM

Brent Venables. Young and knows how today's game is played.

Frazod · 01-22-2019, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

Then why is Ryan unemployed?

Is there any Team in the NFL using the Ryan defense right now?

Well, he's not unemployed. He's got a cushy studio gig.

IMO it would probably take the right offer from the right team to move him out of that. Perhaps like being the DC of a team that has Patrick Mahomes on the other side of the ball.

In58men · 01-22-2019, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest

In 1987, he was acquired by the Kansas City Chiefs to play outside linebacker, reuniting him with former Saints defensive coordinator John Paul Young. He started 9 games at right outside linebacker, tallying 45 tackles, 2 sacks and one forced fumble.

That season the NFL players went on strike. Throughout this period of time, Del Rio and teammates picketed outside of Arrowhead stadium and were vigilantly watching for replacement players attempting to enter the facility. Del Rio mistakenly mistook former Chiefs wide receiver Otis Taylor for a replacement player and assaulted him. At the time, Taylor was a scout for the Chiefs organization and had been retired for 12 years. Chiefs fans who came across the assault told Del Rio that Taylor was actually an 11-year veteran and legend in the Kansas City Chiefs organization. Taylor would later press charges and the two would settle out of court.[11]

Hmmm seems a bit dramatic that this organization would hold onto this grudge, especially since Del Rio admitted he mistakenly mistook him for a replacement player. Both settled outside of court as well.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2019, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baster mater

Brent Venables. Young and knows how today's game is played.

Yes. Get him some Clemson talent while you're at it.

**BossChief** · 01-22-2019, 02:45 PM

The more I think of it, the more I love the idea of Rex as DC.

He has a lifelong history of coaching defenses
Andy wants someone to take over the whole defense so he can focus on the offense.
Rex has shown the ability to develop young talent and is a “players coach” with similar style to Andy in terms of letting players personalities shine with their play.
He runs a scheme that the players already have a basic understanding of
He’s great at in game adjustments
He would be able to get the guys attention and teach run defense and attitude

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 01-22-2019, 02:46 PM

Rex Ryan’s defenses coached 12 years. His defenses finished in the top 10 9 times!

01-22-2019, 01:52 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1954088	The case for Rex Ryan as new DC Here’s why I’d be happy bringing in Rex Ryan to coach the defense... 1st is we wouldn’t need to overhaul the entire defense as the schemes are similar...but the philosophy is different. Bob Sutton’s years as NYJs DC team rankings First year 13th yards ...6th in points 2nd year 18th yards...19th points 3rd year 17th yards...18th points Rex Ryan takes over HC the following year in09 1st year 1st in yards...1st in points 2nd year 3rd in yards....6th in points Drastic and immediate improvement More stats to come on why I think Rex would be a good hire...
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $2194497	His own players turned on him because his defense wasn't even close to aggressive as pettines. And pettine learned from Ryan. Overcomplicared, too conservative... Just seems like we're checking the same boxes again.
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01-22-2019, 02:35 PM	#49
Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $4512970	Boy, so many questions. Why would Andy Reid want an ex-HC coaching under him? Has he ever had an ex-HC coach under him? 2 huge ego's in the same box? How does Reid view the relationship? Underling? How does Rex Ryan view the relationship? Co-HC? Great thing is that the list of talented coaches willing to come into the Chiefs situation has to be fairly large.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7913688	In an interview with ESPN's Josina Anderson, Bills defensive tackle Marcell Dareus said that "everybody's job is on the line" on the team. "I like Rex, personally," Dareus said. "I don't like to see anyone get fired. "Everyone is fighting for their position, so we're at a point where we have to make a change." Asked why he thought the Bills' defense seemed to regress under Ryan, Dareus told Anderson that he believes "we should've been more aggressive on defense ... because that's the kind of players we have." "We want to put our foot on the pedal and keep it down knowing what we're doing and being strategic on what we're doing," Dareus said. "Not trying to match up with this team or that team. We want to have our identity [knowing] this is who we are and what we're going to do." Dareus indicated Ryan's defense was too complicated. "It was just too much detail for a lot of guys, and I feel like for a lot of guys it was too much going on for them to check here and check there, if this happens and that happens," he said. "Then nine times out of 10, a team will throw something out there that we weren't prepared for -- and then the adjustment to it we had to get used to and try to make it happen and make plays." __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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01-22-2019, 02:36 PM	#51
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6880400	Louis Riddick said last night that Reid needs to hire a DC who will let him control the defense. He said Reid is always next to Mahomes after every drive but never with the defense. Rex Ryan fits that profile to a T. Someone who was a coach before and can be trusted to handle the defense by himself. I’m all for this hire. He knows what needs to be done to fix this defense.
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Baster mater Rookie Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Salina, kansas Casino cash: $10000400	Brent Venables. Young and knows how today's game is played.
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01-22-2019, 02:45 PM	#59
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1954088	The more I think of it, the more I love the idea of Rex as DC. He has a lifelong history of coaching defenses Andy wants someone to take over the whole defense so he can focus on the offense. Rex has shown the ability to develop young talent and is a “players coach” with similar style to Andy in terms of letting players personalities shine with their play. He runs a scheme that the players already have a basic understanding of He’s great at in game adjustments He would be able to get the guys attention and teach run defense and attitude __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6880400	Rex Ryan’s defenses coached 12 years. His defenses finished in the top 10 9 times!
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