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Old 08-08-2014, 08:42 AM  
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Random Thoughts on the Bengals Preseason Game

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1. Alex Smith has absolutely nobody to throw to. I'm looking at as much of the field as is shown during the snaps, and nobody is getting open. I'm not even sure Avery and Jenkins played, and Bowe's not exactly known as a receiver who gets wide open anyways. This is extremely troubling, and dooms us against CB-heavy teams like the Seahawks, 49ers, and Patriots (as if we weren't doomed against them already).

The good news, however, is that our non-WR receiving corps looks strong. Charles still looks great. Fasano ran routes very well last night, and Kelce has serious promise. DAT looks like he could be sharp on routes, and another year should allow Davis to develop further.

But this is a team that had the fewest receptions and yardage at the WR corps of every other team in the league, and we didn't replenish any talent in the Draft, which only featured the deepest WR class in NFL history. ****. AND we lost what was a fairly critical piece of that package last year in Dexter McCluster. Basically this means that AJ Jenkins needs to explode this year, that DAT learns the ropes in the slot very quickly, and that Travis Kelce and/or Junior Hemingway takes off, somehow.

2. Really thought Fisher looked really good on all of two plays. I watched him like a hawk, and his runblocking looked far stronger than it ever was last year. Carlos Dunlap is a very big passrusher, however (he's around 290, I think?), and gave Fisher fits on two pass plays, which tells me that the achilles heel Fisher had last year (struggling against strong passrushers) is still going to be a problem this year. On the strip-sack Fisher gave up, Trent Green argued that Fisher did a solid job on the play, but Smith held the ball too long -- which gives me some hope that Fisher is coming along.

But Alex Smith does hold the ball too long, and takes sacks rather than throw down field. That's always been Smith's game. If that's the case, than it's going to be yet another atrocious year in the game threads as folks on this forum cry (justifiably or not) about Fisher struggling to come along. As long as he blocks for Alex Smith, he's going to give up coverage sacks. Last year, however, he was just beat like a rug -- I only saw that once yesterday, when Fisher greeted a bullrush too high and got pushed back into Alex Smith's lap.

3. God, we are so fast now. We've started noticing the trend that John Dorsey has an almost Al Davis-like fascination with speed, and that shows on the field now. Charles, DAT, Albert Wilson, Knile Davis, Donnie Avery, and AJ Jenkins. Travis Kelce burned folks on his long play, too. This is as much a track team as we've ever seen, and hopefully that can compensate on offense for our lack of receiving talent.

It's noticeable on defense as well. Dee Ford is so fast around the edge, James-Michael Johnson runs like a receiver, and it sure doesn't look like anybody is going to be outrunning Phillip Gaines.

4. Rookies had a rocky performance last night, but it was great seeing them out there. Dee Ford was disruptive against the 2nd team OL, and can close that gap in a hurry. He'll need a couple years to add to his passrush arsenal, and also to work on his coverage and run-stopping abilities. That's stuff that Justin Houston had to do (albeit to a lesser extent) and hopefully Ford will improve leaps and bounds in that respect by this time next year. Phillip Gaines looked lost in coverage -- he was always going to be a project, which is why I saw him more as a 5th rounder than as the 3rd rounder we made him. On that long pass to the endzone he broke up, he showed that elite recovery speed that makes him such an outstanding athlete and could make him a great corner, but he also gave up two touchdowns from players that embarrassed him in routes. He does truly have shutdown potential, however, he just is going to take a while to get there, if he ever does.

DAT of course looked brilliant, no comments needed there, and we saw next to nothing of Aaron Murray. Fulton looked... alright. First of all, he looks ****ing massive, and not entirely in a good way. He's got a lot of extra love on those love handles, and he's going to get beat by athletic three-techs all year. But he had a decent performance last night against a DL that was missing their most important piece. I do like that he's getting his experience now. (How bad was Rishaw Johnson -- sheesh, maybe Fulton won the job by default.) I didn't notice hardly anything from Duvarney-Tardif, but I'll be rewatching soon. Albert Wilson looks like he could end up being a UDFA gem -- something this team badly needs this year. Wilson looks great in routes (albeit against 2nd and 3rd defenses), has great hands, and excellent speed.

4. As per the DL, Jaye Howard looks awful against the 1st stringers, and frequently looks bade against the 2nd string. I may revise that when I watch the game again, but I doubt it. There were huge holes opening up time after time against him in the run game. He made a couple plays against the 2nd/3rd string OL, but even then he was getting annihilated. I think he's buried on the depth chart behind DeVito and Catapano, so let's just hope we don't see a lot of him this year. That is definitely not working.

On the plus side, how good did Allen Bailey look? He's decently stout in the run game, but he's FINALLY providing the passrush from the DE position that this team desperately needs. I believe this is his contract year, and I've always loved his athletic potential. If he plays stout and throws in about 5-6 sacks this year, something he's very capable of doing, there's no reason he shouldn't be re-signed. But there is still a lot of football to play.

Vance Walker is a waste of a signing. Wow. Walker provided very little in terms of push at the NT position, and his play against the run was not that great either. He's listed as a backup NT now, but if Poe ever goes down, something tells me the team would rather slide DeVito over than get murdered up the gut thanks to Walker, who has never been a celebrated run defender anyway.

5. 3rd string guys I really like: DE Jairus Campbell, WR Frankie Hammond, QB Tyler Bray, TE Demetrius Harris, CB Kevin Rutland, RB Charcandrick West.

6. I said before that our backup OL was probably the best backup OL we've had on the field since I've been a fan, and you could see that in the 2nd quarter and 2nd half. Against a very deep Bengals team, Knile Davis, Cyrus Gray, and Charcandrick West had holes blasted open for them all game. The Chiefs offensive momentum in this game was almost entirely due to the 2nd string OL dominating on the ground.

7. As I've mentioned, I'll be watching the game a 2nd time, so I'll add thoughts to this thread as I do.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:45 AM   #181
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Another couple of observations.

James Michael Johnson was easily the best ILB on the field for the Chiefs not named DJ.
Speed, instincts and recognition, and pretty damn good in coverage.

And Malcolm Bronson was the best safety on the field in this game.
It seems like we hardly ever blow up screens like jmj did the other night.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:50 AM   #182
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I think Walker will be an emergency NT. I think they are saving him for a specific role in the nickel that we won't see until the season starts.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:51 AM   #183
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Another couple of observations.

James Michael Johnson was easily the best ILB on the field for the Chiefs not named DJ.
Speed, instincts and recognition, and pretty damn good in coverage.

And Malcolm Bronson was the best safety on the field in this game.
agree about Bronson but I was really impressed with Mays.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:51 AM   #184
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I think Walker will be an emergency NT. I think they are saving him for a specific role in the nickel that we won't see until the season starts.
Or he's not good.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:05 PM   #185
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Or he's not good.
He was good for the Raiders. They'll use him like the Raiders did. They have a plan for him. Don't be a dumbass.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:11 PM   #186
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agree about Bronson but I was really impressed with Mays.
Mays timed his blitz really nicely, but is still pretty much the same guy I remember from the Donkeys.

JMJ was all over the field.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:15 PM   #187
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JMJ was good for sure.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:17 PM   #188
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JMJ was good for sure.
How about Jeff Linkenbach?
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Old 08-09-2014, 03:44 PM   #189
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Chris Owens looked good as the nickel. I was impressed and he looked like a pro's pro...
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Chris Owens looked good as the nickel. I was impressed and he looked like a pro's pro...
Oh boy.

LOL.

Alrighty then.
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Old 08-09-2014, 03:55 PM   #191
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Aside from the obvious holes and some players not progressing as we like, I think psychologically for this team that is young and still trying to establish chemistry and most importantly continuing a winning identity especially after losing many vets in FA, by winning and scoring 41 pts IS HUGE for these guys AT THIS STAGE even IF it's just the first pre-season game.

What I noticed MOST about this first pre-season game, collectively ?

The guys were having genuine fun playing together and that's a good thing
Except for Kelce and Daniels looked like some friction there
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So, here's something ****ed up.

The backup line looked extremely good. I've argued before on this forum that this is the best backup line we've had in my time as a Chiefs fan.

This was the line that slaughtered on Thursday:

LT: Ryan Harris
LG: Ricky Henry
C: Eric Kush
RG: Rishaw Johnson
RT: Ryan McKee

Give these guys a round of applause. They played extremely well. I think the lowest grade would go to Eric Kush, but even then I'd grade him about a B.

But I think, the really ****ed up thing is, some UDFA named Ryan McKee deserves consideration to be the Chiefs' swing tackle, over more established vets like Ryan Harris and J'Marcus Webb.

McKee played his nutsack off. He looks a bit slender, like Eric Fisher did last year, but he is extremely athletic and protects the edge very well. I graded him out as an A.
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Third string OL as of the 1st preseason game:

LT: Ryan Harris
LG: Laurent Duvarney-Tardif
C: Eric Kush
RG: Ricky Henry
RT: Jeff Linkenbach
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Old 08-10-2014, 02:59 PM   #195
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Spot on.

That kid might be the best blocker among the WRs on this roster right now.
And he, unlike Ford, has no quit in him.

And he looked like he was open anytime we got a view of the receivers in their routes.
Few good points there, he really did look like the best blocker not wearing a jersey in the 60-70's. I don't remember what quarter it was, but there was one play specifically where he just goes and bull rushes a safety like 8 yards off the ball after this guy is just a yard or two away from being in a potential tackle. I was like, whoa, who is that?

On top of that, he did look open. He was supposedly pretty solid on his route running coming into the league, and I think that helped him a little going against the 2's and 3's. I want to see him play with the 1's a bit more in a deeper game (game 3) before I truly judge his "openness" but all signs pointed to this game saying this kid's going to work in the slot for us haha.

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Another couple of observations.

James Michael Johnson was easily the best ILB on the field for the Chiefs not named DJ.
Speed, instincts and recognition, and pretty damn good in coverage.

And Malcolm Bronson was the best safety on the field in this game.
JMJ did look solid, and Malcolm Bronson was the guy whose name I couldn't think of. God he was all over the place trying to find the ball.
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