The Walking Dead ***With Comic Spoilers***

[Buck]

Sunday Nights at 9pm/8pm (Central) on AMC.

Note from Gonzo:

Spoiler Tag all comic book references please. Anything from episodes that have already aired is fine.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

When did this thread start including spoilers from the comics? I thought it was the opposite before.

Or does the thread title mean spoilers from the TV show? Rather confusing (especially because another TV show Game of Thrones has one thread here with spoilers from those books and one without).

It seems the code is if it is in the comics add a spoiler tag, if the episode has aired, fair game. At least that's what I hope.

[cabletech94]

just watched the latest episode.

things are just getting ready to get interesting.

remember when i said waaaaaay back when that we never saw carol die? yup. nailed it!!

can't wait for sunday night!!!

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

It seems the code is if it is in the comics add a spoiler tag, if the episode has aired, fair game. At least that's what I hope.

You're correct.

[Lprechaun]

This is straight from the comic,
Rick says

Spoiler!

"They're dead, BEFORE they get back up--BEFORE they try to eat you--THEY DIE. You said you saw your son die."

Since I think the whole, bite kills you conversation probably just got misunderstood I think this sums it up pretty well.
We were all getting to the same point I think just had slightly different thoughts on it. The good part will be when or if we find out how it happened, if it can be stopped, and at what point does it start to become more about eradicating and less about surviving.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Not sure if this is a spoiler or not but it appears they are adding a 3rd black character to the cast. Tyrese




http://badassdigest.com/2012/11/20/c...-walking-dead/


TV's The Walking Dead has played very fast and loose with its source material; in the original comics, for instance, Shane died much earlier. There is no Daryl in the comics. The Governor is very different in the comics. And so far the TV series has not featured one of the comics' most popular characters - Tyreese (yeah, that's how Robert Kirkman spells it). For a while people thought T-Dog might be Tyreese, but fans were relieved to discover that character had no relation.

In the comic Tyreese joins the group fairly early on, and he's got a good attitude and helpful nature that makes him one of the more likable folks around. He's an ex-NFL player, probably because he's black and that's just how this shit goes in popular culture, and he has a daughter. There's a lot of stuff that happens to Tyreese in the prison that has, obviously, not occured in the show. Since he's not in the show.

Until now! The next major character added to The Walking Dead is Tyreese, bringing the show back up to three black characters - surely some kind of genre program record. And unlike previous casting on The Walking Dead, this one fills me with hope: Chad Coleman is playing the role. The Wire fans know Coleman as Cutty, the ex-con boxer trying to live straight in the latter half of the series. Cutty is one of the most human, decent and lovable characters in the series. A lot of that comes from Coleman, who has a soft center underneath his impressive physical exterior. Perfect for Tyreese, in my opinion.

If the show is smart they'll keep Tyreese around for a while. They can still do some of his more interesting storylines, but I think Coleman is too good an actor to just shuffle out of the story after a handful of episodes. Here's hoping

Chad Coleman is an absolutely PERFECT Tyreese.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

This is straight from the comic,
Rick says

Spoiler!

"They're dead, BEFORE they get back up--BEFORE they try to eat you--THEY DIE. You said you saw your son die."

Since I think the whole, bite kills you conversation probably just got misunderstood I think this sums it up pretty well.
We were all getting to the same point I think just had slightly different thoughts on it. The good part will be when or if we find out how it happened, if it can be stopped, and at what point does it start to become more about eradicating and less about surviving.

You're taking an Apple and proving that something else is an orange because that's an apple. These are two different things. Everyone understands that they are infected and will turn regardless upon death. But when people are bitten, they die due to some sort of excelarated infection caused from the bite. That's why everyone is always asking "Are you bitten?" or saying "he was bitten" etc.. Bites have that effect.

The amputation of oldmanWinter's leg was not to "stop the bleeding" (still astounds me how you could possibly even remotely come to that conclusion). It was to stop the infection before it spread and killed him.

[Lprechaun]

Originally Posted by Zeke

You're taking an Apple and proving that something else is an orange because that's an apple. These are two different things. Everyone understands that they are infected and will turn regardless upon death. But when people are bitten, they die due to some sort of excelarated infection caused from the bite. That's why everyone is always asking "Are you bitten?" or saying "he was bitten" etc.. Bites have that effect.

The amputation of oldmanWinter's leg was not to "stop the bleeding" (still astounds me how you could possibly even remotely come to that conclusion). It was to stop the infection before it spread and killed him.

Because I know medicine. Not saying it was the best choice to cut his leg off with a hatchet but its hollywood. Nor did I ever say the infection isnt rapid after being bit. What I said was you dont die just from being bitten. They are asking "are you bit" or saying "he/she is bit" because they already know if they let it go they will die and turn, where as if they can fix the wound and recover they can live.
I dont see how this is hard to understand. Its been pointed out several times in the show already. They are taking the proper precautions in the group to make sure the ones bitten who have treatment are restrained until recovery has happened.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by NewChief

The victim of a komodo dragon bite won't die from an infection if it's treated even marginally. A wildebeest in the wild will certainly die, though. That's because a wildebeest doesn't know things like: clean the wound, take antibiotics, get rest, etc...

And yes, they had medical supplies, I believe. They were saving them for Lori's birth. They were also in a prison and knew there was an infirmary (with supplies) somewhere nearby. If it was as simple as an infection (even a super infection), I think they'd bet on finding some antibiotics and cleaning the wound rather than, literally, cutting off his leg to spite his face.

Edit: I've also found out while researching this, that recent research shows that komodo dragons actually are VENOMOUS, not just toxic due to bacteria.
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/2...th-snake-venom

The infirmary was raided before they got there.

[Lprechaun]

Originally Posted by bevischief

The infirmary was raided before they got there.

I dont think that is completely correct. Didnt Carl go off on his own and find supplied in the infirmary for when Herschel was first needing them?

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

I dont think that is completely correct. Didnt Carl go off on his own and find supplied in the infirmary for when Herschel was first needing them?

He brought back all that was left of the medical supplies. Wasn't much.

[Lprechaun]

Gotcha, I knew he went but probably just forgot they had said it was already raided. Its a good show, probably the only series I watch so dedicated.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

Because I know medicine. Not saying it was the best choice to cut his leg off with a hatchet but its hollywood. Nor did I ever say the infection isnt rapid after being bit. What I said was you dont die just from being bitten. They are asking "are you bit" or saying "he/she is bit" because they already know if they let it go they will die and turn, where as if they can fix the wound and recover they can live.
I dont see how this is hard to understand. Its been pointed out several times in the show already. They are taking the proper precautions in the group to make sure the ones bitten who have treatment are restrained until recovery has happened.

The problem is that you believe any bite is treatable. As though antibiotic and cleaning will solve any bite. Not the case. Take all the antibiotics you want, it will do you no good.

The only way to stop the infection is to act quick and lop the bitten area of, that is if you are so lucky to have been bitten on an extremity or limb. The big black dude and T-Dog were gone, no matter the measures taken.

[Lprechaun]

Though its all hypothetical, any bite could and should be viewed as any other like injury. Obviously no amount of medical procedures would have saved Dale. T-Dog was not only bitten once, but covered in zombies and eaten. Had he only been bit and the wound treated like any other normal non life threatening wound than he could have been aided and recovered. Had they had the proper medical supplied Jim could have been saved as well.
Carl when shot if he hadnt been treated would have died and turned, Merle if he had bled out would have died and turned. All serious injuries, yet treated and recovered.
Bites are no different than any other injury. If they are life threatening or not. If it can be medically treated regardless of the injury as if it happened by a zombie or by playing basketball in the prison yard it can be treated with measures, as they showed by treating Herschel. If a zombie bites your jugular and they cant get to you in time than yes you die due to being bitten... or you are bit and left you die. Bit and be treated if medically possible has been portrayed as possible and will continue to be.

Spoiler!

in the comic I believe its #14, Tyrese's daughter I think it is and her boyfriend decide to have sex for the first time and then kill each other before they are killed by zombies in a hope they will be together forever.... his daughter turns well after being dead and attacks Tyrese while he is holding her lifeless body in his arms"

[cabletech94]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

Though its all hypothetical, any bite could and should be viewed as any other like injury. Obviously no amount of medical procedures would have saved Dale. T-Dog was not only bitten once, but covered in zombies and eaten. Had he only been bit and the wound treated like any other normal non life threatening wound than he could have been aided and recovered. Had they had the proper medical supplied Jim could have been saved as well.
Carl when shot if he hadnt been treated would have died and turned, Merle if he had bled out would have died and turned. All serious injuries, yet treated and recovered.
Bites are no different than any other injury. If they are life threatening or not. If it can be medically treated regardless of the injury as if it happened by a zombie or by playing basketball in the prison yard it can be treated with measures, as they showed by treating Herschel. If a zombie bites your jugular and they cant get to you in time than yes you die due to being bitten... or you are bit and left you die. Bit and be treated if medically possible has been portrayed as possible and will continue to be.

Spoiler!

in the comic I believe its #14, Tyrese's daughter I think it is and her boyfriend decide to have sex for the first time and then kill each other before they are killed by zombies in a hope they will be together forever.... his daughter turns well after being dead and attacks Tyrese while he is holding her lifeless body in his arms"

this has been buried on this site. but the quick view of WD.

all is infected with the virus.
when you die, you "turn" shortly thereafter.

if you are bitten by a walker, you are infected (doubly?) and turn feverish, and will die soon as well.

when hershel was bitten, the crew (as it's assumed, off season) knew that there was only 1 chance to possibly save hershel, and that was by amputation.

if tyreese (tyrese, whatever) is the comic version, it's badass time!!!

[Lprechaun]

AttentionWhore, I assume you have read all the comics? Im only through #14 and like the show better so far. That could be because Ive never read a comic or graphic novel in my life and they are so much more "turn and burn" so to speak. What did you think?