Chiefs Tyreek Hill says he understands criticism: ‘It’s my fault, and it’s my mistake’ - Page 5

Deberg_1990 · 05-08-2016, 10:25 AM

Since the Chiefs selected Tyreek Hill with the 165th overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft, the reaction in Kansas City has ranged from outrage to concern and more.

But Hill on Saturday said he understands why he is receiving criticism. He pleaded guilty last August to domestic abuse by strangulation of his pregnant girlfriend and received a three-year suspended sentence.

“Oh yes sir, no doubt, no doubt,” Hill said, while addressing reporters at the start of the Chiefs’ rookie minicamp. “Those fans have every right to be mad at me, because I did something wrong, I let my emotions get the best of me. and I shouldn’t have did it. They have every right to be mad.

“But guess what? I’m (about) to come back and be a better man, be a better citizen, and everything will take care of itself, and let God do the rest.”

Chiefs coach Andy Reid also said he understood why selecting Hill, a returner and receiver, caused such a strong reaction.

“No, I completely understand — I’m sensitive to the situation,” Reid said. “I get it … I’ve talked to women on the other side of this. I’m very sensitive to that.”

Reid again mentioned that his wife, Tammy, has been active aiding domestic violence causes since he became a NFL head coach. When asked what his wife thought about the decision to select Hill, Reid said Hill’s efforts to better himself played a role in her acceptance. Hill had to complete a domestic-abuse evaluation, an anger-management course and a year-long batterer’s program as part of his sentence, and will continue to undergo counseling in Kansas City.

“Counseling was a big part of it — is he willing to go and do that,” Reid said. “That step is huge. To actually admit you were wrong … a lot of people won’t do that, they just won’t go there. On top of that, to try to fix yourself, and make it right, to her, those are valuable, valuable steps.”

Hill, who was arrested in December 2014 in Stillwater, Okla., and dismissed from Oklahoma State the same month, said he struck and choked the victim, then two months pregnant, according to a transcript of his plea hearing obtained Tuesday by The Star. The victim, who gave birth to Hill’s child, has been unavailable for comment since Hill was drafted.

“I — I did something that — I did something that I shouldn’t have done that night, which was I just let my feelings take — take control of me,” Hill told associate district judge Stephen Kistler in August 2015. “I wasn’t thinking. I just — I just reacted and hit her, choked her. I’m real sorry for that.”

Following his selection by the Chiefs on April 30, Hill was asked what he had learned. He originally said he’d try to avoid a similar situation again by choosing his friends better.

When asked Saturday about that statement — and how it might be construed as a remark about the victim — Hill said: “That’s the very wrong way to look at it. I don’t blame (anybody) but myself. It’s my fault, and it’s my mistake. Nobody (can) live my life but me, so I just have to deal with it.”

The prosecutor in the case, Payne County (Okla.) district attorney Laura Thomas, told The Star this week that her office repeatedly consulted the victim about the terms of Hill’s plea agreement, which will keep Hill out of jail and remove the incident from his record in August 2018 if he completes the terms of his suspended sentence.

“I’m most definitely appreciative of everything, really just worked out,” Hill said, when asked about the victim’s consultation in his plea. “I made it to the NFL … well, I (haven’t) made it yet, I’m trying to make it to the NFL. So everything worked out how it was supposed to.”

Reid was asked if the club, which spoke to the district attorney about the case, would have been comfortable drafting Hill if that were that not the case. Reid repeated his belief that general manager John Dorsey and his scouting staff did their homework before the selection. Reid added the Chiefs’ vetting process has led to them saying “no” on some prospects before.

“That’s one reason we brought him up here — normally you want to make that part of the homework, part of the equation there,” Reid said. “We brought him up here, and had a chance to meet him, and have him mingle around. Our players were here at that time, so that was a positive thing.”

The Chiefs’ rookie transition program will be June 22-24, along with the rest of the AFC teams. Reid didn’t provide any details on the Chiefs’ plan for the symposium, but the league requires domestic violence education to be a part of it.

“The league has a plan for it,” Reid said.　

Hill does not have much room for error. In addition to the terms of his deferred sentence, another domestic violence incident could lead the NFL to consider Hill a repeat offender, which means potential banishment from the league.

“I try not to think about all that,” Hill said. “The only thing I’m thinking of is doing my counseling, and playing football. That’s it. I’m just trying to be a better man and help this team. I try not to worry about all the social media talk. I deleted all of that.”

When Hill arrived on Friday, he spoke to chairman Clark Hunt, Reid and several teammates.

“The guys here welcomed me in like a brother, just like any other team,” Hill said. “It’s all love, everywhere you go. (They’re) making me feel comfortable, and that’s all I can really ask for.”

Hill said Reid told him that if he works hard, everything will be all right, while Hunt shook his hand and told him good luck.

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Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-08-2016, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

After reading his interview, he comes off as a cross between Jim from The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and Gary Ridgway aka The Green River Killer.

Holy shite...

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-08-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

After reading his interview, he comes off as a cross between Jim from The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and Gary Ridgway aka The Green River Killer.

You should watch the video to hear him speak

**gblowfish** · 05-08-2016, 06:12 PM

Clark Hunt is going to back whatever Dorsey does. Dorsey is the guy who puts his neck on the line here.

They picked the guy because he runs a 4.25 and Dave Toub thinks he can turn him into Devon Hester. Field position is important, especially with Alex Smith at the helm. The fewer 80 plus drives the better.

Now, I also see a lot of wisdom in Dane's argument. Of all the teams to take a flyer on this guy, the Chiefs were perhaps the most unlikely because of the Belcher thing. But Belcher was a Pioli problem. Dorsey had nothing to do with that.

The Chiefs have had plenty of guys of poor character: Vanover fenced stolen cars. Bong Morris was a dope dealer. Brock Middlebrook was a thief. Victor Riley drove his Navagator into another car with his wife and kid inside. Todd McNair was involved with dog fighting. Not to mention other guys who had alcohol and drug issues like Dale Carter, Sean Smith, Jared Allen, etc. Belcher was the worst, of course.

All I can figure is, DAT must be done, Knile Davis will probably be traded or cut, they don't want to get Maclin hurt, they don't like Conley as a kick returner, and they just need somebody for that role. But I tell you, if that kid so much as fumbles one punt, or gets a jaywalking ticket, he's done. Pre-season will be interesting, especially on the road.

Why Not? · 05-08-2016, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Clark Hunt is going to back whatever Dorsey does. Dorsey is the guy who puts his neck on the line here.

They picked the guy because he runs a 4.25 and Dave Toub thinks he can turn him into Devon Hester. Field position is important, especially with Alex Smith at the helm. The fewer 80 plus drives the better.

Now, I also see a lot of wisdom in Dane's argument. Of all the teams to take a flyer on this guy, the Chiefs were perhaps the most unlikely because of the Belcher thing. But Belcher was a Pioli problem. Dorsey had nothing to do with that.

The Chiefs have had plenty of guys of poor character: Vanover fenced stolen cars. Bong Morris was a dope dealer. Brock Middlebrook was a thief. Victor Riley drove his Navagator into another car with his wife and kid inside. Todd McNair was involved with dog fighting. Not to mention other guys who had alcohol and drug issues like Dale Carter, Sean Smith, Jared Allen, etc. Belcher was the worst, of course.

All I can figure is, DAT must be done, Knile Davis will probably be traded or cut, they don't want to get Maclin hurt, they don't like Conley as a kick returner, and they just need somebody for that role. But I tell you, if that kid so much as fumbles one punt, or gets a jaywalking ticket, he's done. Pre-season will be interesting, especially on the road.

This basically describes the whole NFL, obviously this is the Chiefs edition, but you can go through any team and find similar history. This is the wrong sport to back if your looking for moral high ground. I'll never have Hill over to speak with my sons on ways to deal with being angry at a female but I'll cheer for him on Sunday's because I can compartmentalize different parts of life.

Edit: 1. This is not aimed at you George, just thought you brought up a good point

2. This is assuming he's around on Sundays. I agree he'll need to impress in pre season to make he team

**HemiEd** · 05-08-2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Clark Hunt is going to back whatever Dorsey does. Dorsey is the guy who puts his neck on the line here.

They picked the guy because he runs a 4.25 and Dave Toub thinks he can turn him into Devon Hester. Field position is important, especially with Alex Smith at the helm. The fewer 80 plus drives the better.

Now, I also see a lot of wisdom in Dane's argument. Of all the teams to take a flyer on this guy, the Chiefs were perhaps the most unlikely because of the Belcher thing. But Belcher was a Pioli problem. Dorsey had nothing to do with that.

The Chiefs have had plenty of guys of poor character: Vanover fenced stolen cars. Bong Morris was a dope dealer. Brock Middlebrook was a thief. Victor Riley drove his Navagator into another car with his wife and kid inside. Todd McNair was involved with dog fighting. Not to mention other guys who had alcohol and drug issues like Dale Carter, Sean Smith, Jared Allen, etc. Belcher was the worst, of course.

All I can figure is, DAT must be done, Knile Davis will probably be traded or cut, they don't want to get Maclin hurt, they don't like Conley as a kick returner, and they just need somebody for that role. But I tell you, if that kid so much as fumbles one punt, or gets a jaywalking ticket, he's done. Pre-season will be interesting, especially on the road.

/thread

**mdchiefsfan** · 05-08-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's hasn't paid his debt to society, yet he's allowed to play in a league that's vowed to do something positive about domestic violence in the league.

That's an oxymoron.

Additionally, it's a bad look for a team that prides itself on "high character" individuals, especially in the wake of the Jovan Belcher murder-suicide of 2012.

Or I could just rely on the evaluation of the questionable character by the team that focuses on high character. There is a reason we drafted him. The allegations and the plea are horrendous, but to assume we know everything is severely short sighted.

Hoopsdoc · 05-08-2016, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not saying he should be "banished forever", I just don't believe that he should have been selected, ESPECIALLY just a few short years after Jovan Belcher killed girlfriend, then himself at Arrowhead.

It's a bad decision.

I'm in the "everyone deserves a second chance" camp on this, but I agree that the Chiefs probably shouldn't have been the team to give it, with their recent history.

**Meatloaf** · 05-08-2016, 07:41 PM

I'm wondering what the "magic time" is when it's ok for the Chiefs to give someone a second chance after the Belcher incident. Clearly, Dane's not happy with "a few short years" and Hoops isn't happy with "recent history". To me, you either believe in second chances or you don't....not sure what prior, unrelated incidents have to do with it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-08-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

Shut the **** up

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-08-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Shut the **** up

Damn.

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**DaneMcCloud** · 05-08-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Or I could just rely on the evaluation of the questionable character by the team that focuses on high character. There is a reason we drafted him. The allegations and the plea are horrendous, but to assume we know everything is severely short sighted.

The problem with this approach is that these are football men that only care about what happens on the football field.

Do you think they'd hire this guy as a file clerk? A video assistant? A scout, a coach?

No ****ing way.

They drafted him because he runs 40 years in 4.29 seconds. That's it.

If he didn't have any football skills, no one would know anything about this person, especially a football organization. They think he can help them win games and domestic violence be damned.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-08-2016, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatloaf

I'm wondering what the "magic time" is when it's ok for the Chiefs to give someone a second chance after the Belcher incident. Clearly, Dane's not happy with "a few short years" and Hoops isn't happy with "recent history". To me, you either believe in second chances or you don't....not sure what prior, unrelated incidents have to do with it.

It's a not a "Second Chance" you butt****ing moron.

It's a FIRST chance. He hasn't been suspended by the NFL. He hasn't been disciplined by the NFL. He's got the same EXACT opportunity as the 253 draftees and hundreds of UDFA's.

If you're going argue a point, know the fact, Dumbo.

Deberg_1990 · 05-08-2016, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They drafted him because he runs 40 years in 4.29 seconds. That's it.

If he didn't have any football skills, no one would know anything about this person, especially a football organization. They think he can help them win games and domestic violence be damned.

Dane, pro sports has been like this for decades. Why are you just now getting upset? Was this the breaking point for you?

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-08-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Dane, pro sports has been like this for decades. Why are you just now getting upset? Was this the breaking point for you?

Ray Rice, Greg Hardy and the NFL's instance on "looking the other way".

I sure as hell don't remember any woman beaters being a member of the Chiefs or Royals in my lifetime, other than this punk and Jovan Belcher.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-08-2016, 08:07 PM

Oh, give it time. He'll run right up the field and in to your heart.

05-08-2016, 10:25 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Tyreek Hill says he understands criticism: ‘It’s my fault, and it’s my mistake’ Since the Chiefs selected Tyreek Hill with the 165th overall pick in the 2016 NFL draft, the reaction in Kansas City has ranged from outrage to concern and more. But Hill on Saturday said he understands why he is receiving criticism. He pleaded guilty last August to domestic abuse by strangulation of his pregnant girlfriend and received a three-year suspended sentence. “Oh yes sir, no doubt, no doubt,” Hill said, while addressing reporters at the start of the Chiefs’ rookie minicamp. “Those fans have every right to be mad at me, because I did something wrong, I let my emotions get the best of me. and I shouldn’t have did it. They have every right to be mad. “But guess what? I’m (about) to come back and be a better man, be a better citizen, and everything will take care of itself, and let God do the rest.” Chiefs coach Andy Reid also said he understood why selecting Hill, a returner and receiver, caused such a strong reaction. “No, I completely understand — I’m sensitive to the situation,” Reid said. “I get it … I’ve talked to women on the other side of this. I’m very sensitive to that.” Reid again mentioned that his wife, Tammy, has been active aiding domestic violence causes since he became a NFL head coach. When asked what his wife thought about the decision to select Hill, Reid said Hill’s efforts to better himself played a role in her acceptance. Hill had to complete a domestic-abuse evaluation, an anger-management course and a year-long batterer’s program as part of his sentence, and will continue to undergo counseling in Kansas City. “Counseling was a big part of it — is he willing to go and do that,” Reid said. “That step is huge. To actually admit you were wrong … a lot of people won’t do that, they just won’t go there. On top of that, to try to fix yourself, and make it right, to her, those are valuable, valuable steps.” Hill, who was arrested in December 2014 in Stillwater, Okla., and dismissed from Oklahoma State the same month, said he struck and choked the victim, then two months pregnant, according to a transcript of his plea hearing obtained Tuesday by The Star. The victim, who gave birth to Hill’s child, has been unavailable for comment since Hill was drafted. “I — I did something that — I did something that I shouldn’t have done that night, which was I just let my feelings take — take control of me,” Hill told associate district judge Stephen Kistler in August 2015. “I wasn’t thinking. I just — I just reacted and hit her, choked her. I’m real sorry for that.” Following his selection by the Chiefs on April 30, Hill was asked what he had learned. He originally said he’d try to avoid a similar situation again by choosing his friends better. When asked Saturday about that statement — and how it might be construed as a remark about the victim — Hill said: “That’s the very wrong way to look at it. I don’t blame (anybody) but myself. It’s my fault, and it’s my mistake. Nobody (can) live my life but me, so I just have to deal with it.” The prosecutor in the case, Payne County (Okla.) district attorney Laura Thomas, told The Star this week that her office repeatedly consulted the victim about the terms of Hill’s plea agreement, which will keep Hill out of jail and remove the incident from his record in August 2018 if he completes the terms of his suspended sentence. “I’m most definitely appreciative of everything, really just worked out,” Hill said, when asked about the victim’s consultation in his plea. “I made it to the NFL … well, I (haven’t) made it yet, I’m trying to make it to the NFL. So everything worked out how it was supposed to.” Reid was asked if the club, which spoke to the district attorney about the case, would have been comfortable drafting Hill if that were that not the case. Reid repeated his belief that general manager John Dorsey and his scouting staff did their homework before the selection. Reid added the Chiefs’ vetting process has led to them saying “no” on some prospects before. “That’s one reason we brought him up here — normally you want to make that part of the homework, part of the equation there,” Reid said. “We brought him up here, and had a chance to meet him, and have him mingle around. Our players were here at that time, so that was a positive thing.” The Chiefs’ rookie transition program will be June 22-24, along with the rest of the AFC teams. Reid didn’t provide any details on the Chiefs’ plan for the symposium, but the league requires domestic violence education to be a part of it. “The league has a plan for it,” Reid said.　 Hill does not have much room for error. In addition to the terms of his deferred sentence, another domestic violence incident could lead the NFL to consider Hill a repeat offender, which means potential banishment from the league. “I try not to think about all that,” Hill said. “The only thing I’m thinking of is doing my counseling, and playing football. That’s it. I’m just trying to be a better man and help this team. I try not to worry about all the social media talk. I deleted all of that.” When Hill arrived on Friday, he spoke to chairman Clark Hunt, Reid and several teammates. “The guys here welcomed me in like a brother, just like any other team,” Hill said. “It’s all love, everywhere you go. (They’re) making me feel comfortable, and that’s all I can really ask for.” Hill said Reid told him that if he works hard, everything will be all right, while Hunt shook his hand and told him good luck. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...#storylink=cpy
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gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	Clark Hunt is going to back whatever Dorsey does. Dorsey is the guy who puts his neck on the line here. They picked the guy because he runs a 4.25 and Dave Toub thinks he can turn him into Devon Hester. Field position is important, especially with Alex Smith at the helm. The fewer 80 plus drives the better. Now, I also see a lot of wisdom in Dane's argument. Of all the teams to take a flyer on this guy, the Chiefs were perhaps the most unlikely because of the Belcher thing. But Belcher was a Pioli problem. Dorsey had nothing to do with that. The Chiefs have had plenty of guys of poor character: Vanover fenced stolen cars. Bong Morris was a dope dealer. Brock Middlebrook was a thief. Victor Riley drove his Navagator into another car with his wife and kid inside. Todd McNair was involved with dog fighting. Not to mention other guys who had alcohol and drug issues like Dale Carter, Sean Smith, Jared Allen, etc. Belcher was the worst, of course. All I can figure is, DAT must be done, Knile Davis will probably be traded or cut, they don't want to get Maclin hurt, they don't like Conley as a kick returner, and they just need somebody for that role. But I tell you, if that kid so much as fumbles one punt, or gets a jaywalking ticket, he's done. Pre-season will be interesting, especially on the road.
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