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Old 10-20-2018, 05:01 PM  
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Trump: Major Middle Class Tax Cut Proposal Unveil Prior to Midterms


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Old 10-20-2018, 10:46 PM   #31
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Won't happen. Posse Comitatus 18 USC 1385. Prohibits US Military from engaging in domestic law enforcement.

Better chance of rounding up as many fed cops as they can muster and sending to the border.
Defending the border from outsiders is pretty much in the wheelhouse of what the U.S. military a/k/a Executive Branch as empowered by the U.S. Constitution is supposed to do. Posse Comitatus 18 USC 1385 isn't going to stop that.
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:49 PM   #32
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If they were an armed body of foreign troops you have a point. They aren't armed nor looking for conflict. Hence their crossing or attempting to cross would be a law enforcement function not a military.
I don't care. They are foreign invaders. They don't belong here, and have no right to be here, just as I have no right to wander into someone else's home and help myself to their stuff and camp out in their guest room, whether I'm armed or not.

**** 'em.
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:55 PM   #33
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You guys realize that Congress is in recess until November 13, right?
So what? Why would that stop Trump from rolling out a new tax proposal?
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:03 PM   #34
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Won't happen. Posse Comitatus 18 USC 1385. Prohibits US Military from engaging in domestic law enforcement.

Better chance of rounding up as many fed cops as they can muster and sending to the border.
The Posse Comitatus Act (1878) prohibited use of the U.S. Army to aid civil officials in enforcing the law or suppressing civil disorder unless expressly ordered to do so by the president.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-...-comitatus-act
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:06 PM   #35
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So what? Why would that stop Trump from rolling out a new tax proposal?
How do you "put in" a tax cut without a Congress to vote on it?
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:41 AM   #36
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Defending the border from outsiders is pretty much in the wheelhouse of what the U.S. military a/k/a Executive Branch as empowered by the U.S. Constitution is supposed to do. Posse Comitatus 18 USC 1385 isn't going to stop that.
Wanna bet?
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:42 AM   #37
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The Posse Comitatus Act (1878) prohibited use of the U.S. Army to aid civil officials in enforcing the law or suppressing civil disorder unless expressly ordered to do so by the president.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-...-comitatus-act
No. It takes an act of Congress to use the US military for domestic law enforcement.
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:45 AM   #38
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I don't care. They are foreign invaders. They don't belong here, and have no right to be here, just as I have no right to wander into someone else's home and help myself to their stuff and camp out in their guest room, whether I'm armed or not.

**** 'em.
So we should call out the army to protect your home? You are being dramatic. It is simple a law enforcement function. If trump wants to put troops on the border to cook food, repair fenceline and conduct surveillance he can. But they won't be bringing tanks, guns or arresting anyone
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:50 AM   #39
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Love it, especially the part about using the military.
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:52 AM   #40
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How do you "put in" a tax cut without a Congress to vote on it?
LOL! ****ing what?

Dude, you said it yourself. Congress is in recess until November 13th. Are you seriously quibbling over semantics of what "put in" means in this context? What a joke! It's hilarious.

Apparently the left is incapable of deductive reasoning when it comes to Trump. They are stumped by the words "put in" and simply can't even imagine what Trump must be talking about. I haven't looked. Is this what's going on in the media? Are they baffled, just baffled about what Trump means by "put in?"
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Old 10-21-2018, 01:40 AM   #41
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No. It takes an act of Congress to use the US military for domestic law enforcement.
"by its express terms, the Posse Comitatus Act is not a complete barrier to the use of the Armed Forces for a range of domestic purposes, including law enforcement functions, when the use of the Armed Forces is authorized by Act of Congress or the President determines that the use of the Armed Forces is required to fulfill the President's obligations under the Constitution to respond promptly in time of war, insurrection, or other serious emergency."

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-...onres274ih.pdf
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Old 10-21-2018, 02:04 AM   #42
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Wanna bet?
You seem to think that congressional law trumps the Constitution, and you also seem to be taking a very narrow reading of the Posse Comitatus Act.
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Old 10-21-2018, 06:04 AM   #43
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Are they baffled, just baffled about what Trump means by "put in?"
Safe to assume that Trump means forced and non-consensual then.
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“Republicans should stop wasting their time on Immigration until after we elect more Senators and Congressmen/women in November,” Trump tweeted. “Dems are just playing games, have no intention of doing anything to solves this decades old problem. We can pass great legislation after the Red Wave!”
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LOL! ****ing what?

Dude, you said it yourself. Congress is in recess until November 13th. Are you seriously quibbling over semantics of what "put in" means in this context? What a joke! It's hilarious.

Apparently the left is incapable of deductive reasoning when it comes to Trump. They are stumped by the words "put in" and simply can't even imagine what Trump must be talking about. I haven't looked. Is this what's going on in the media? Are they baffled, just baffled about what Trump means by "put in?"
"One official familiar with the discussions said Trump has pushed congressional leaders to introduce another tax cut package before the Nov. 6 election.

But that appears highly unlikely, as lawmakers are out of Washington, and there are no plans for either chamber to reconvene before their regularly scheduled return on Nov. 13."
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