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Hog's Gone Fishin · 09:38 AM

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...son-right-now/

By: Wesley Roesch | 21 hours ago

Chiefs coach Andy Reid seems to be much more confident in his defense than the fans are right now.

Many folks believe Kansas City needs to focus on defense in the 2018 draft, filling holes like safety, cornerback and defensive line. It doesn’t appear that Reid agrees.

During Monday’s presser, Reid said that he thinks the Chiefs could step in and play right now. He doesn’t think the Chiefs have many holes to fill in the draft so they can select the best player available instead.

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Andy Reid says he believes the #Chiefs are one of the few teams that could step out and play right now. Don't need to fix "holes" in draft. Basically, can take the best player regardless of position.

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Reid on what the Chiefs learned about their 2017 defensive scheme after self-scouting themselves: "I know how solid the scheme is. We've been a pretty good defensive unit over the years here. So I trust we'll be right back on that and rolling."

Reid on carrying five running backs for the time being: “Let’s have some competition there and see what happens.”

Reid emphasizing he doesn’t believe the #Chiefs have to draft for need after some of the offseason moves made. “Don’t have to force one,” he says.

This is an interesting take but it’s not far off from what I expected from Chiefs brass. The team has clearly been focusing on the offense rather than the defense during free agency. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them add more receivers, tight ends or offensive linemen high in the draft next week.

From a logical standpoint, I’ll have to disagree with Reid about the defense not having holes. Obviously Reid knows way more than I do about football and his team but I don’t feel comfortable with David Amerson at cornerback and Eric Murray/Daniel Sorensen at safety. Those guys have the potential to play well but have all struggled recently.

The return of safety Eric Berry should help the defense turn things around though, as could the possible return of a healthy linebacker
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Ragland and Jones lost weight and ready to kick ass!

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...ing-offseason/

Several Chiefs defensive players are taking steps to get leaner and faster.

During Monday’s presser, Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones and linebacker Reggie Ragland both said they shed some weight during the offseason.

Jones said he lost 25 pounds, turning fat into muscle, while Ragland dropped 10 pounds in order to improve his coverage.

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Chris Jones says he’s dropping weight, “turning fat into muscle.” Says he could play more on the outside this year.

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Reggie Ragland says he’s dropped about 10 pounds. Trying to take better care of himself so he can be faster in coverage and chasing running backs.

It’s awesome to see some of the Chiefs’ top defensive players work so hard to keep improving their bodies and their game. Jones looks great and his weight loss is very noticeable based on the photos (seen above). Jones dropping some pounds could be the difference-maker when he goes after opposing quarterbacks.

Ragland shedding weight in order to improve his coverage is interesting. Ragland has been known as more of a run-stuffer in the pros but the Chiefs signed linebacker Anthony Hitchens to be their top run defender. Ragland’s weight loss and added speed could mean he’ll see more looks as a coverage linebacker on passing downs

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ALL players showed up for voluntary camp. The Mahomes effect ?

It doesn’t look like there will be a no-show controversy this year for the Chiefs.

The first day of Kansas City’s offseason workouts was Monday, and everyone on the team showed up according to coach Andy Reid. That includes safety Eric Berry and linebacker Justin Houston, two players who didn’t show up to organized team activities last year.

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Andy Reid says Eric Berry, Travis Kelce and Justin Houston are present for the start of offseason workouts

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#Chiefs coach Andy Reid said everyone is here, as well.

Reid added that it was good to have the leaders of the locker room present on the first day. Many agree, as shown last year after several fans and media members were upset that Berry, Houston and former Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters didn’t show up for OTAs. Reid acknowledged several times last year that OTAs were voluntary, although he did seem a bit annoyed when asked about it.

Of course, there’s still a possibility that a player decides to skip OTAs, but considering the backlash last year it seems unlikely. That’s probably a good thing anyway because, like Reid said, the leaders of the locker room need to be there.

Randallflagg · 04-17-2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Ran, I railed until my fingers hurt about Bad Bob... but a little time to simmer down has made me see that all is not lost with him

We've had some really nice Ds under him, and by all accounts from our newly signed free agents, we're getting back to that more aggressive style

St Pat is gonna put up a LOT of points, and Bad Bob will let these guys pin their ears back...

Yeah this, whats he supposed to say?... 'oh hell guys we're hurting all over, particularly CB'

It's not that Sutton is necessarily a BAD D Coordinator. The thing is that every team in the NFL KNOWS when they play the Chiefs exactly what the D scheme is. Sutton has been around so long - and his patent refusal to "change" his scheme from time to time - that you can almost see the O Coordinator on the other side of the field smiling.

I think that we all can call his defense from play to play. Just been using the same plan for far too damned long.

I remember back, quite a few years ago when Cunningham was D Coordinator - don't remember who they were playing at the time - but Gunther called Blitzes on EVERY down - to keep them out of the end zone. No one in their right mind thought he should do that - but the game was won on that goal line stand. The Coach of the other team called it "pure genius".

THAT is the kind of thing that Sutton has completely lost (imo). Far too damned predictable.

JakeF · 04-17-2018, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Mahomes .Struggle.

I don't think so.

So Mahomes is the best 2nd-year starter in the history of the NFL so he's never going to struggle ......... ever.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 04-17-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

So Mahomes is the best 2nd-year starter in the history of the NFL so he's never going to struggle ......... ever.

Great post!

Deberg_1990 · 04-17-2018, 08:15 PM

Hell yea. They will be ready.

**Easy 6** · 04-17-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Randallflagg

It's not that Sutton is necessarily a BAD D Coordinator. The thing is that every team in the NFL KNOWS when they play the Chiefs exactly what the D scheme is. Sutton has been around so long - and his patent refusal to "change" his scheme from time to time - that you can almost see the O Coordinator on the other side of the field smiling.

I think that we all can call his defense from play to play. Just been using the same plan for far too damned long.

I remember back, quite a few years ago when Cunningham was D Coordinator - don't remember who they were playing at the time - but Gunther called Blitzes on EVERY down - to keep them out of the end zone. No one in their right mind thought he should do that - but the game was won on that goal line stand. The Coach of the other team called it "pure genius".

THAT is the kind of thing that Sutton has completely lost (imo). Far too damned predictable.

Last year hurt, I wont lie... but my take now is that he took a mistaken - throw cornerbacks and safeties at'em - approach to making up for our lack of athletic talent across the board

LB all around should be waaay better thid year with a healthy Ford and 3rd year Kpass, not to mention our new inside guys with Hitchens a slimmed down Ragland

On the backend, we all know Berrys return will make such a huge difference, and of course the draft will surely bring serious help... thats leaves the D line, which may not get a ton of help, but I feel confident Xavier Williams can be better than Logan with his youth and genuine desire to be here

And of course the newly svelte Sasquatch, his 3rd year growth will be key... but all in all, I'm loving the way things are shaping up

Give Bad Bob another chance in 2018, I say

Randallflagg · 04-17-2018, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Last year hurt, I wont lie... but my take now is that he took a mistaken - throw cornerbacks and safeties at'em - approach to making up for our lack of athletic talent across the board

LB all around should be waaay better thid year with a healthy Ford and 3rd year Kpass, not to mention our new inside guys with Hitchens a slimmed down Ragland

On the backend, we all know Berrys return will make such a huge difference, and of course the draft will surely bring serious help... thats leaves the D line, which may not get a ton of help, but I feel confident Xavier Williams can be better than Logan with his youth and genuine desire to be here

And of course the newly svelte Sasquatch, his 3rd year growth will be key... but all in all, I'm loving the way things are shaping up

Give Bad Bob another chance in 2018, I say

Oh we will.....what else can we do? Reid isn't going to get rid of him. But I seriously hope that the Defense is better. It HAS to be. Hoping that the Offense can just keep outscoring their opponent by 48-45 is really going out on a limb Sunday after Sunday.

But Hell, I'm optimistic!!

**Easy 6** · 04-17-2018, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Randallflagg

Oh we will.....what else can we do? Reid isn't going to get rid of him. But I seriously hope that the Defense is better. It HAS to be. Hoping that the Offense can just keep outscoring their opponent by 48-45 is really going out on a limb Sunday after Sunday.

But Hell, I'm optimistic!!

Chiefshrink · 04-17-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoes

I understand the skepticism regarding Ford but I think there is some reason to be positive. In a contract year Dee Ford has to prove to the NFL that he is worth receiving a second contract, and a big part of that will be Ford staying on the field.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I think there is a good chance you get Dee Ford's best season this year.

You are overly optimistic.

CoMoChief · 04-17-2018, 09:04 PM

Berry is back, but will he be the same ol EB? We will see. This is a big "IF" the Chiefs may have to face this season. If he's not the old EB, the secondary (and really, the D as a whole) is going to be in shit loads of trouble.

No Marcus Peters. Say what you want, but he caused TO's and won the Chiefs game(s) on his play alone on more than 1 occasion. His playmaking ability is not going to be replaced/replicated etc. Yeah we got Fuller via AS trade, but he's not better than Peters, regardless of what PFF says. Amerson is ass and Nelson isn't much better.

DJ was a leader. Some things dont show up on the stat sheet. His presence will be greatly missed.

DL still has major holes, lacks a quality starting rotation and depth and can't stop the run. Who's the Chiefs NT? Jones is down to 280ish. Lots of problems need to be addressed here. Of course the draft is coming up, but unless the Chiefs draft the next Aaron Donald, this is going to be a problem all season IMO.

Andy Reid is either drunk or is doing his best trying to indirectly convince people that the D won't be complete shit so they'll buy season tix. Chiefs are going to have to score 30-40ppg if they plan on making the playoffs. I just don't see where the Chiefs upgraded at any position other than EB possibly returning to old form and getting younger at ILB.

And lets not forget how ****ing bad the Chiefs pass rush is. KPass? Project FAIL? Dominant days of Houston are long gone? Ford sucks/can't stay healthy choose your pick? Zombo

And if the pass rush sucks the secondary is going to suck that much more.

**jjchieffan** · 04-17-2018, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Last year hurt, I wont lie... but my take now is that he took a mistaken - throw cornerbacks and safeties at'em - approach to making up for our lack of athletic talent across the board

LB all around should be waaay better thid year with a healthy Ford and 3rd year Kpass, not to mention our new inside guys with Hitchens a slimmed down Ragland

On the backend, we all know Berrys return will make such a huge difference, and of course the draft will surely bring serious help... thats leaves the D line, which may not get a ton of help, but I feel confident Xavier Williams can be better than Logan with his youth and genuine desire to be here

And of course the newly svelte Sasquatch, his 3rd year growth will be key... but all in all, I'm loving the way things are shaping up

Give Bad Bob another chance in 2018, I say

Am I really the only one to catch this? KPass was drafted last draft. He will be 2nd year, not 3rd.

Randallflagg · 04-17-2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Great movie! Unfortunately, so full of crap that it literally stinks....But what the hell, I'm a Scotsman (Inverness). It was a great movie, indeed!

My Wife and I have been to most of those filming locations, Stirling Bridge (nothing like the movie), Falkirk, and the Scots (Highlanders) didn't wear kilts in the 13th Century

Saw Wallace's sword at the museum at Falkirk (or so they say). Saw the statue of Wallace...poor guy looked nothing like Mel Gibson!! Wonderful movie. Very inspirational. I would LOVE to see Sutton, however, dress in a kilt, paint his face blue and deliver that speech to his Defense on the first regular game. Now THAT would make the history books!!

beach tribe · 04-18-2018, 05:58 AM

Andy just knows teams won't be able to outscore us, and our sack and TO ratio is going to sky rocket from teams trying to keep up.

**wazu** · 04-18-2018, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Andy just knows teams won't be able to outscore us, and our sack and TO ratio is going to sky rocket from teams trying to keep up.

If Reid believes our offense is going to leap that far forward then it is a tremendous indictment of Alex Smith.

**New World Order** · 04-18-2018, 07:01 AM

If they move up and draft a good corner there’s no reason why this couldn’t be one of the better secondaries in the NFL if berry can stay healthy.

We have Jones and Houston upfront and our lb position in the middle is pretty good.

tmax63 · 04-18-2018, 07:48 AM

They had a bottom-5 defense last year. They kept a few of the good players but in all actuality they could start 11 new players and have a hard time doing any worse than last year. New faces and new attitudes might make a bigger difference than some think here. I'm glad they blew it up. If anyone was getting "comfortable" in their spot I think this lets them know that nobody is immune.

04-17-2018, 09:32 AM
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1750477	Andy Reid thinks Defense is ready https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...son-right-now/ By: Wesley Roesch \| 21 hours ago Chiefs coach Andy Reid seems to be much more confident in his defense than the fans are right now. Many folks believe Kansas City needs to focus on defense in the 2018 draft, filling holes like safety, cornerback and defensive line. It doesn’t appear that Reid agrees. During Monday’s presser, Reid said that he thinks the Chiefs could step in and play right now. He doesn’t think the Chiefs have many holes to fill in the draft so they can select the best player available instead. BJ Kissel ✔ @ChiefsReporter Andy Reid says he believes the #Chiefs are one of the few teams that could step out and play right now. Don't need to fix "holes" in draft. Basically, can take the best player regardless of position. Terez A. Paylor ✔ @TerezPaylor Reid on what the Chiefs learned about their 2017 defensive scheme after self-scouting themselves: "I know how solid the scheme is. We've been a pretty good defensive unit over the years here. So I trust we'll be right back on that and rolling." Reid on carrying five running backs for the time being: “Let’s have some competition there and see what happens.” Reid emphasizing he doesn’t believe the #Chiefs have to draft for need after some of the offseason moves made. “Don’t have to force one,” he says. This is an interesting take but it’s not far off from what I expected from Chiefs brass. The team has clearly been focusing on the offense rather than the defense during free agency. I wouldn’t be shocked to see them add more receivers, tight ends or offensive linemen high in the draft next week. From a logical standpoint, I’ll have to disagree with Reid about the defense not having holes. Obviously Reid knows way more than I do about football and his team but I don’t feel comfortable with David Amerson at cornerback and Eric Murray/Daniel Sorensen at safety. Those guys have the potential to play well but have all struggled recently. The return of safety Eric Berry should help the defense turn things around though, as could the possible return of a healthy linebacker ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ragland and Jones lost weight and ready to kick ass! https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...ing-offseason/ Several Chiefs defensive players are taking steps to get leaner and faster. During Monday’s presser, Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones and linebacker Reggie Ragland both said they shed some weight during the offseason. Jones said he lost 25 pounds, turning fat into muscle, while Ragland dropped 10 pounds in order to improve his coverage. Tom Martin ✔ @TomKCTV5 Chris Jones says he’s dropping weight, “turning fat into muscle.” Says he could play more on the outside this year. Matt Derrick @mattderrick Reggie Ragland says he’s dropped about 10 pounds. Trying to take better care of himself so he can be faster in coverage and chasing running backs. It’s awesome to see some of the Chiefs’ top defensive players work so hard to keep improving their bodies and their game. Jones looks great and his weight loss is very noticeable based on the photos (seen above). Jones dropping some pounds could be the difference-maker when he goes after opposing quarterbacks. Ragland shedding weight in order to improve his coverage is interesting. Ragland has been known as more of a run-stuffer in the pros but the Chiefs signed linebacker Anthony Hitchens to be their top run defender. Ragland’s weight loss and added speed could mean he’ll see more looks as a coverage linebacker on passing downs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL players showed up for voluntary camp. The Mahomes effect ? It doesn’t look like there will be a no-show controversy this year for the Chiefs. The first day of Kansas City’s offseason workouts was Monday, and everyone on the team showed up according to coach Andy Reid. That includes safety Eric Berry and linebacker Justin Houston, two players who didn’t show up to organized team activities last year. Terez A. Paylor ✔ @TerezPaylor Andy Reid says Eric Berry, Travis Kelce and Justin Houston are present for the start of offseason workouts BJ Kissel ✔ @ChiefsReporter #Chiefs coach Andy Reid said everyone is here, as well. Reid added that it was good to have the leaders of the locker room present on the first day. Many agree, as shown last year after several fans and media members were upset that Berry, Houston and former Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters didn’t show up for OTAs. Reid acknowledged several times last year that OTAs were voluntary, although he did seem a bit annoyed when asked about it. Of course, there’s still a possibility that a player decides to skip OTAs, but considering the backlash last year it seems unlikely. That’s probably a good thing anyway because, like Reid said, the leaders of the locker room need to be there. Last edited by Hog's Gone Fishin; 04-17-2018 at 09:38 AM..
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04-17-2018, 08:15 PM	#49
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04-17-2018, 09:04 PM	#54
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	Berry is back, but will he be the same ol EB? We will see. This is a big "IF" the Chiefs may have to face this season. If he's not the old EB, the secondary (and really, the D as a whole) is going to be in shit loads of trouble. No Marcus Peters. Say what you want, but he caused TO's and won the Chiefs game(s) on his play alone on more than 1 occasion. His playmaking ability is not going to be replaced/replicated etc. Yeah we got Fuller via AS trade, but he's not better than Peters, regardless of what PFF says. Amerson is ass and Nelson isn't much better. DJ was a leader. Some things dont show up on the stat sheet. His presence will be greatly missed. DL still has major holes, lacks a quality starting rotation and depth and can't stop the run. Who's the Chiefs NT? Jones is down to 280ish. Lots of problems need to be addressed here. Of course the draft is coming up, but unless the Chiefs draft the next Aaron Donald, this is going to be a problem all season IMO. Andy Reid is either drunk or is doing his best trying to indirectly convince people that the D won't be complete shit so they'll buy season tix. Chiefs are going to have to score 30-40ppg if they plan on making the playoffs. I just don't see where the Chiefs upgraded at any position other than EB possibly returning to old form and getting younger at ILB. And lets not forget how ***ing bad the Chiefs pass rush is. KPass? Project FAIL? Dominant days of Houston are long gone? Ford sucks/can't stay healthy choose your pick? Zombo And if the pass rush sucks the secondary is going to suck that much more. __________________ Last edited by CoMoChief; 04-17-2018 at 09:11 PM..*
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tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $3270400	They had a bottom-5 defense last year. They kept a few of the good players but in all actuality they could start 11 new players and have a hard time doing any worse than last year. New faces and new attitudes might make a bigger difference than some think here. I'm glad they blew it up. If anyone was getting "comfortable" in their spot I think this lets them know that nobody is immune. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
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