****Official 2013-14 Missouri Tiger Football Repository Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

We have two things to look forward to this year:

1) The potential beginning of the Maty Mauk Era. Mauk represents the best chance for this program to get back to a level of respectability after horrendous QB play cost us multiple games last year.

2) The last year of the Gary Pinkel era. Pinkel's entrenched cronyism won't play in a conference this competitive, especially if he couples his abysmal gameday coaching with lackadaisical, worst-in-conference recruiting. Pinkel was the formerly adequate meal that has now turned into a four pound bowel obstruction. It's time to jam a Fleet's enema up our collective asses.

Here is the schedule. We dodge Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas in the west and the Non-con is decidedly weaker than years past.

8/31: Murray State
9/7: Toledo
9/21: @ Indiana
9/28: Arkansas State
10/5:@ Vanderbilt
10/12: @ Georgia
10/19:Florida
10/26: South Carolina
11/2:Tennessee
11/9: @ Kentucky
11/23: @ Ole Miss
11/30: aTm

Looks like 6-6. Undefeated in non-con, 2-6 in league play.

I will eventually update the OP with a list of high profile in-state recruits that decide to go elsewhere after a half-assed attempt to gain their services. The inevitable cavalcade of *** rejects, skeezers, skanks, and scalliwags we get will fill out the ranks.


Razors, cyanide capsules, and Jonestown Kool-Aid are available in the break room. Second door on the left.

Since every Mizzou thread eventually dies of AIDS, I recommend starting anti-retroviral therapy immediately. I believe Walgreens covers Express Scripts.


Premium In-State Players:

Roderick Johnson: **** OT, Florissant, MO.
Monte Harrison: **** WR, Lee's Summit, MO.
Jimmy Swain: **** LB, Lee's Summit, MO


Commitment List: From to and possibly

Spoiler!

Committed - Not Yet Signed

Name	Pos	Location	Ht	Wt	40	Rivals Rating
Paul Adams	OL	Nashville, TNChrist Presbyterian Academy	6'6"	270		5.5
Sam Bailey	OL	Lamar, MOLamar Jr/Sr R 1	6'5"	245		5.4
Andy Bauer	OL	St. Louis, MODeSmet	6'6"	304	5.2	5.9
Kendall Blanton	TE	Blue Springs, MOBlue Springs South	6'5"	225		5.4
Nate Brown	WR	Suwanee, GANorth Gwinnett	6'3"	215	4.5	5.7
Logan Cheadle	DB	Lee's Summit, MOLee's Summit West	5'10"	165		5.6
Kenya Dennis	DB	Raymond, MSHinds C.C.	6'0"	190		5.5
Michael Fairchild	OL	Overland Park, KSBlue Valley West	6'6"	262		5.4
Darnell Green-Beckham	WR	Springfield, MOHillcrest	6'5"	175		5.3
Zach Hudson	OL	Tampa, FLSickles	6'5"	280		5.5
Stepfawn Hughes	ATH	Fort Worth, TXDunbar	5'10"	170	4.6	5.5
Grant Jones	ATH	Columbia, MOHickman	6'3"	216		5.5
Lawrence Lee	WR	Pensacola, FLWest Florida Tech	5'10"	167	4.5	5.6
Rocel McWilliams	DE	Pensacola, FLWest Florida Tech	6'3"	240		5.5
Kevin Pendleton	OL	Lee's Summit, MOLee's Summit West	6'4"	329		5.5
Thomas Richard	WR	Nashville, TNChrist Presbyterian Academy	6'1"	185		5.4
Tavon Ross	ATH	Cochran, GABleckley County	6'1"	196		5.4
Finis Stribling IV	DB	Thompson's Station, TNIndependence	5'10"	170	4.5	5.4
Greg Taylor	DB	East St. Louis, ILEast St. Louis	5'10"	181		5.7
Trevon Walters	RB	Bradenton, FLManatee	5'10"	189		5.4
Jhonathon Williams	DE	Berrien Springs, MIBerrien Springs	6'6"	230	4.5	5.5
Thomas Wilson	ATH	Buford, GABuford	5'10"	176		5.5
Roderick Winters	LB	Arlington, TXBowie	5'11"	196	4.5	5.3
Ish Witter	RB	Tampa, FLAlonso	5'8"	190	4.6	5.5
Marvin Zanders	QB	Jacksonville, FLRaines	6'1"	175		5.5

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Thats why they might as well not even fire Pinkel, I mean seriously who are they going to get, no decent coach will go to Mizzou?

Bobby Petrino. He's a winner which is all that matters in the SEC and I am sure he would jump from Western Kentucky.

[Sully]

I know I'm dreaming, and that there are penalties, but...
How much fun would it be for Pinkel to somehow make it through another year, and we hire Kelly after he flames out in Philly?


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[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Bobby Petrino. He's a winner which is all that matters in the SEC and I am sure he would jump from Western Kentucky.

Never going to happen. Really no point in discussing it.

Also, his recruiting at Arkansas was no better than Pinkel's has been at Mizzou. Not sure you really get the upgrade there that you're looking for.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Sully

I know I'm dreaming, and that there are penalties, but...
How much fun would it be for Pinkel to somehow make it through another year, and we hire Kelly after he flames out in Philly?


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I might consider enduring another year of Pinkel for that.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Never going to happen. Really no point in discussing it.

Also, his recruiting at Arkansas was no better than Pinkel's has been at Mizzou. Not sure you really get the upgrade there that you're looking for.

5-7, 8-5, 10-3, 11-2. That 8-5 year should have been 9-4 and a win against #1 Florida but the refs f'd them at the end of the game. They had a close loss to Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl and wrecked K-State in the Cotton Bowl. Also Ryan Mallett seemed to work out for him.

Missouri would kill for that improvement. I agree it probably will never happen, but they need to decide whether they are committed to winning or just getting paid for taking a beating.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

5-7, 8-5, 10-3, 11-2. That 8-5 year should have been 9-4 and a win against #1 Florida but the refs f'd them at the end of the game. They had a close loss to Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl and wrecked K-State in the Cotton Bowl. Also Ryan Mallett seemed to work out for him.

Missouri would kill for that improvement. I agree it probably will never happen, but they need to decide whether they are committed to winning or just getting paid for taking a beating.

There's no probably about it. Bobby Petrino will never be hired at Mizzou unless they're willing to see the two biggest donors to the university stop donating (period).

Petrino is a brilliant offensive mind, but he was a mediocre recruiter BEFORE his rep went nuclear. Can't see any way he wouldn't be worse now. Auburn - which has been obsessed with hiring him for a DECADE - passed on him this offseason. That should tell you how bad things are for Petrino.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

There's no probably about it. Bobby Petrino will never be hired at Mizzou unless they're willing to see the two biggest donors to the university stop donating (period).

Petrino is a brilliant offensive mind, but he was a mediocre recruiter BEFORE his rep went nuclear. Can't see any way he wouldn't be worse now. Auburn - which has been obsessed with hiring him for a DECADE - passed on him this offseason. That should tell you how bad things are for Petrino.

As usual, Missouri is committed to average.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

As usual, Missouri is committed to average.

When the doners won't pay up, you don't have that option.

Alienating the Lauries so you can hire a guy that is unquestionably an asshole and will leave the program the moment he gets traction is a really really bad idea. And that's presuming he'd come cheap enough that you can get him hired without Laurie/Walton money anyway.

What do you do in 4 years when he's left for USC and the Lauries have sworn off giving MU any more money for athletics? Where are you going to come up with the 3-5 million it takes to secure/retain a good coach?

In a vacuum, I think Petrino's an interesting idea. But we aren't in a vacuum. The consequence of hiring Petrino would be so dire that it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to bring him in.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

As usual, Missouri is committed to average.

The donors that would walk away have donated a combined $100 million in the past decade or so.

Also, you're doing it for a guy who is going to LESS effective than he was at his last job, where he didn't win anything more significant than the Cotton Bowl.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The donors that would walk away have donated a combined $100 million in the past decade or so.

Also, you're doing it for a guy who is going to LESS effective than he was at his last job, where he didn't win anything more significant than the Cotton Bowl.

I get that the donors will go away, but turning away from someone that will help you win vs. someone that gives you warm and fuzzies is dumb and like I said committed to average. If that's what we're stuck with then it's sad as usual.

Missouri isn't close to being able to compete for the Cotton bowl, so let's set some attainable goals first before we act like it's beneath us.

[WhawhaWhat]

I fully expect Gary Pinkel to live in the 5-7 to 7-5 bubble for 4 or 5 years until he wants to walk away. Any new coach is wishful thinking.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I think you might be surprised.

SEC job (carries weight - look at Ole Miss, Kentucky, Miss. State, Vanderbilt)
Willingness to pay $2.5 million+
Willingness to spend equal amount on assistants
Large land-grant school with no in-state rivals
Decent in-state talent, not great
Ability to make recruiting inroads in Texas, Florida, and pitch elite talent in Iowa, Kansas, Illinois, Indiana on playing in the SEC and still being close to home

It's not a better job than Alabama, Auburn, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Georgia or Tennessee, but it is a better job now than it was in the Big 12.

But its ****ing Mizzou, we will **** it up, book it. lol

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I can't envision MU losing to Indiana on the road.

And neither can I...having seen how bad they have been over the last few years, they even make MU look good.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

I get that the donors will go away, but turning away from someone that will help you win vs. someone that gives you warm and fuzzies is dumb and like I said committed to average.

1.) No, clearly you don't "get" what it means for the Lauries to go away.

2.) Petrino isn't the only coach out there that can win games at Missouri.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

I get that the donors will go away, but turning away from someone that will help you win vs. someone that gives you warm and fuzzies is dumb and like I said committed to average. If that's what we're stuck with then it's sad as usual.

Missouri isn't close to being able to compete for the Cotton bowl, so let's set some attainable goals first before we act like it's beneath us.

Here's where I think the biggest gap in our thoughts on this is:

You think Bobby Petrino would be just as successful at Missouri as he was at Arkansas. I believe he would NOT be as successful because of the huge hits his reputation has taken. For a guy who already was not a recruiting dynamo, that will just be crippling.

I don't think I'm alone in that assessment. If other ADs thought he could be as successful now as he was at Arkansas, he'd be the head coach at Auburn, Tennessee or Kentucky right now.

I don't care about warm and fuzzies. Not hiring Bobby Petrino doesn't mean I want to hire a numb nuts like Paul Rhoads who "does it right" and is a "Leader of men" and mediocre football coach (Sorry, RustShack). It just means that Petrino is not - and should - happen.