Chiefs 2018 Salary Cap - Page 6

O.city · 12-13-2017, 09:34 AM

https://twitter.com/sinow/status/940953737736130560

Apparently with the new Verizon deal, caps going up

RunKC · 12-13-2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Had the Chiefs not lost Berry, Ware and Conley for the season and had Mitch Morse been able to stay healthy, this team would most likely be at least 9-3 at this point if not 11-1.

But the fact of the matter is that Houston and Berry will be 29 years old to start next season and no one know how Berry, Conley and Ware are able to perform.

Veach will need to hit on at least 3 players in the draft, meaning Week 1 impact players, and guys like Chesson, Robinson, Ragland, Eligwe, Jones and Kpassognon will need to ascend.

That's a lot to ask, especially with what will essentially be a rookie starting QB.

At this point, I think the Chiefs need to consider keeping almost everyone outside of DJ/Tamba/Alex.

If Dee Ford's back isn't ****ed, I don't mind keeping him for 1 more year. Like Allen Bailey, these guys have proven that they can rush the passer.

I'd like to focus on adding young guys to the front 7 in this upcoming draft so that we have a ton of guys who are talented enough to make plays and build depth.

staylor26 · 12-13-2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It's basically what they've always done with rookies. They don't play them a lot early.

Yup. Same thing they did with Nelson and Conley for example.

O.city · 12-13-2017, 12:55 PM

Cutting the big 3 frees up the money they need (plus maybe Revis and or Colquitt) so they may need to keep the other guys and hope shit works out.

I dunno.

Hoover · 12-13-2017, 12:56 PM

The ever increasing cap makes the contracts given to Berry and Houston are suddenly more more palatable. Frankly we are in great shape so long as Mahomes is the real deal and ready to take the helm.

I think its foolish to propose cutting this guy and that guy just to get a large available cap number. You keep guys like Parker IMO, because you can deal with his cap number. The same with Zombo, I think he's more valuabe as a backup than the 1.1 million in space he creates.

If you can trade a guy like Bailey great, but he's in the last year of his deal so again, the additional cap space is only good if its really needed. Its not like we are a team that is going to be overly active on high dollar free agents.

The easy moves are these three.

Trade Smith - $17 million
Cut DJ - $8 million
Cut Hali - $8 million

Then is becomes a question of which FA is out there that we absolutley must have?

The cap space we need to to retain players, not go buy them on the open market.

Hoover · 12-13-2017, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yes, which is why it's difficult to see the Chiefs move on from Bailey, Parker, Sorenson and maybe even Zombo.

Smith, DJ and Hali are definitely goners but that might be the extent of the big contract guys.

While Gaines isn't likely to return, it would be surprising to see them give up on a guy like Acker, who will likely play for Vet Minimum. If Revis finds the Fountain of Youth in 2017, it wouldn't be surprising to see him stick in 2018.

Veach will need to draft extremely well and make trades like he did this year for the Chiefs to be competitive in 2018, especially considering their most recent 2-8 run.

O.city · 12-13-2017, 12:57 PM

If they're gonna move on from Peters when his rookie deal is over, I'd be interested in paying for Trumaine long term.

Hoover · 12-13-2017, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If they're gonna move on from Peters when his rookie deal is over, I'd be interested in paying for Trumaine long term.

Yeah CB is one of the positions where there is actually some talent available.

ThaVirus · 12-13-2017, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah but think about how much we're in the nickle or dime packages.

Even then that’s only, what, half the time?

Idk, man. I’m just not keen on handing over a huge contract to a guy after one breakout season, especially since we’d likely be forcing him to change positions/scheme/responsibilities.

**The Franchise** · 12-13-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Even then that’s only, what, half the time?

Idk, man. I’m just not keen on handing over a huge contract to a guy after one breakout season, especially since we’d likely be forcing him to change positions/scheme/responsibilities.

I thought we played the nickle a majority of the time. I could be wrong.

And I wasn't advocating for signing Lawrence.

dj56dt58 · 12-13-2017, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If you REALLY want to clean house....you can do the following and have a ton of cap space.

Trade Smith - $17 million
Cut DJ - $8 million
Cut Hali - $8 million
Cut Ford - $8.7 million
Cut/Trade Bailey - $6 million
Cut Ron Parker - $5 million
Cut Harris - $2 million
Cut Zombo - $1.1 million

Total Cap Space next season - $49.72 million. And that's with the huge bonus that Revis gets. Cut him and we're close to $55 million.

I thought 610 said yesterday DJ would only save a million?

ThaVirus · 12-13-2017, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I thought we played the nickle a majority of the time. I could be wrong.

And I wasn't advocating for signing Lawrence.

You might be. Based on percentages I’ve seen posted over time I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re in sub packages over 50% of the time.

Lawrence isn’t happening either way, I’d say. Stud pass rushers in their prime aren’t generally allowed to hit the market.

WhawhaWhat · 12-13-2017, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

I thought 610 said yesterday DJ would only save a million?

His cap hit in 2018 is $10,250,000 or $2,250,000 of dead space to cut him.

Toad · 12-13-2017, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If they're gonna move on from Peters when his rookie deal is over, I'd be interested in paying for Trumaine long term.

That would be beautiful. Would we be able to afford it?

We will have to throw some cake at NT (Logan FA) and a competent backup QB (AS cut and Bray FA). Also need to resign Colquit and KPL.

Ragland minimized the need for MLB but Zach Brown will be a FA. He is tearing it up. MLB are relatively inexpensive.

staylor26 · 12-13-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If they're gonna move on from Peters when his rookie deal is over, I'd be interested in paying for Trumaine long term.

Eh, he’s going to be 28 in a few weeks.

hitchief · 12-13-2017, 02:42 PM

Just need to trade Alex since he's the only problem as far as I know of and once he's gone its all good. We know this is the case since every thread reverts to this theme.

Everything else is good to go. No need for a better oline. No need for a running game. Just putting Patrick in for Alex gets rid of all of those problems.

The D will be better with Patrick in there too because Alex wont be screwing things up all the time.

Superbowl bound next year, who's in?

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12-13-2017, 12:55 PM	#78
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2774064	Cutting the big 3 frees up the money they need (plus maybe Revis and or Colquitt) so they may need to keep the other guys and hope shit works out. I dunno.
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12-13-2017, 12:56 PM	#79
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1688179	The ever increasing cap makes the contracts given to Berry and Houston are suddenly more more palatable. Frankly we are in great shape so long as Mahomes is the real deal and ready to take the helm. I think its foolish to propose cutting this guy and that guy just to get a large available cap number. You keep guys like Parker IMO, because you can deal with his cap number. The same with Zombo, I think he's more valuabe as a backup than the 1.1 million in space he creates. If you can trade a guy like Bailey great, but he's in the last year of his deal so again, the additional cap space is only good if its really needed. Its not like we are a team that is going to be overly active on high dollar free agents. The easy moves are these three. Trade Smith - $17 million Cut DJ - $8 million Cut Hali - $8 million Then is becomes a question of which FA is out there that we absolutley must have? The cap space we need to to retain players, not go buy them on the open market.
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hitchief Starter Join Date: Apr 2013 Casino cash: $10005314	Just need to trade Alex since he's the only problem as far as I know of and once he's gone its all good. We know this is the case since every thread reverts to this theme. Everything else is good to go. No need for a better oline. No need for a running game. Just putting Patrick in for Alex gets rid of all of those problems. The D will be better with Patrick in there too because Alex wont be screwing things up all the time. Superbowl bound next year, who's in?
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