Chiefs And so the "Matt Cassel to KC" Rumors Begin... - Page 3

FloridaMan88 · 02-02-2009, 09:59 AM

As if they hadn't started already...

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...&position=also

Matt Cassel draws interest

TAMPA - They might not have been one of the two Super Bowl participants last night, but the Patriots [team stats] still generated a lot of talk on Radio Row during the week.

With Matt Cassel making the rounds, there was plenty of speculation on how much interest he would draw should the Pats apply the franchise tag and then trade him.

The pundits’ top pick to land Cassel in that scenario is Kansas City. Obviously, the Scott Pioli factor weighs heavily in that choice, with the Pats former vice president of player personnel now calling the shots for the Chiefs.

“I’d really look at Pioli down there in Kansas City. Why wouldn’t he want him?” Sirius NFL radio analyst Jim Miller said. “He knows what the kid is capable of doing. So I think he’d be on their radar.”

Miller, like most analysts, doesn’t see the crop of quarterbacks in this year’s NFL Draft as particularly appealing. That boosts the draw for Cassel, especially if Pioli decides he’s not satisfied with the collection of QBs he inherited after taking over the job.

“I don’t think this is a strong quarterback draft. Everybody is saying Matthew Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of USC are going to go in the Top 10. I don’t believe that,” Miller said. “I don’t think those guys are ready. And I don’t think you’ll see the type of success guys like Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco had. They just haven’t played enough. So I can’t see teams wanting them.

“But if Kansas (City) were to make that deal, that’s their Matt Ryan. That’s their Joe Flacco. Unlike a Sanchez, for instance, they know he’s playing at a starter’s level. So to them, I think it’d be worth it to do. They’d get their starting quarterback, they know what he’s capable of doing, and they’ve seen him win games at the NFL level.”

Other experts, meanwhile, aren’t sure Pioli would want to deal with his former boss right out of the gate.

Some other teams figuring to make a pitch for Cassel include the New York Jets, Detroit, Minnesota, San Francisco, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Chicago.

As for what Cassel would land in a trade, there were differing opinions. Miller, for one, thought he would cost a second-round draft choice.

The decision to trade or keep Cassel will ultimately depend on Tom Brady [stats]’s health. While reports have him on target to play in the season opener, he still has a few hurdles to clear before that point following reconstructive surgery on his left knee and a subsequent staph infection.

“I think a lot is going to depend on where Kevin O’Connell is in his development. If they feel they can move Matt to benefit their team, they’ll do it,” said Miller, a one-time Pats backup quarterback. “It’s rolling the dice on Tom and whether he’s healthy, and two, can they do it with Kevin O’Connell? The question they have to ask is if O’Connell is as capable of what they have in Matt Cassel?”

King_Chief_Fan · 02-02-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I can't imagine the Chiefs making any deals with New England. There'd be too much of a risk of "nepotism" complaints, conflict-of-interest.

not to mention the possibility that Cassel is this years Derek Anderson, falls on his buttocks in KC and Pioli's career in KC starts off with a thud.

CupidStunt · 02-02-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I can't imagine the Chiefs making any deals with New England. There'd be too much of a risk of "nepotism" complaints, conflict-of-interest.

From who?

Because Pioli sure as hell won't care what us fans think.

dj56dt58 · 02-02-2009, 11:30 AM

somebody tell this dumbass that nobody thought Ryan/Flacco were gonna do what they did either

**Bowser** · 02-02-2009, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We should trade our #1 for Cassel, then trade our 2nd round pick for Derek Anderson.

Proctor just sprung wood.

Frankie · 02-02-2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I can't imagine the Chiefs making any deals with New England. There'd be too much of a risk of "nepotism" complaints, conflict-of-interest.

Nah. Business is business.

rambleonthruthefog · 02-02-2009, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones

I'd gladly take Cassel for the right price.

i can live with him for a 3rd or a 4th pick. a 2nd seems a bit high, but if pioli wants him for our 2nd pick i'll bite my toungue.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-02-2009, 12:08 PM

I don't want anything to do with him if we need to pay him $15 million dollars for next year. Let the Pats keep that salary.

Mr. Laz · 02-02-2009, 12:08 PM

no thanks

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I don't want anything to do with him if we need to pay him $15 million dollars for next year. Let the Pats keep that salary.

Yep.

SOMEONE is going to be forced to pay him a shit-ton of money, I hope it's not us.

BigCatDaddy · 02-02-2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I don't want anything to do with him if we need to pay him $15 million dollars for next year. Let the Pats keep that salary.

As usual in situations like this new deal is worked out before the trade is made. This what we did when we traded for Surtain.

R&GHomer · 02-02-2009, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

If it helps I ran into his brother at the GAP yesterday.

No more out of you chuckles.

Consistent1 · 02-02-2009, 12:19 PM

It is really hard to judge what Cassel is worth. He could end up being pretty darn good, or just about average. It is too bad that he did not get put on the spot in a playoff situation. He helped the team go 11-5, what could he have done with the added pressure? It is good and bad for him. On one hand, he did not get the chance to flop. On the other, if he had a good playoff run....he would be in line for a big payday and the Pats would have easily gotten a few nice trade offers. Was what he did during the season a fluke, did the team situation do it all for him, was it Welker and Moss? Who knows right now....

aturnis · 02-02-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

somebody tell this dumbass that nobody thought Ryan/Flacco were gonna do what they did either

Neither of those QB's did anything outstanding. They managed games well enough for their good teams to win. If either was in K.C., they wouldn't have even been considered good.

Matt Ryan 16 TD's 11 Int's 16 games started

Joe Flacco 14 TD's 12 Int's 16 games started

Tyler Thigpen 18 TD's 12Int's 11 games started

Nothing outstanding. Would I be glad to have them? Yes. I would also be glad to have a lot of the players on their offenses.

wazimo · 02-02-2009, 12:28 PM

If the Patriots would accept a 3rd rounder I would jump on it. I think they will more likely ask for a 1st and accept a 2nd.

It's a little far fetched but I would love to p/up Haynesworth in Free agency then draft Oher or Curry in the first, trade the 2nd for Boldin, and our 3rd for Cassell. We still have a ton of young players on our roster. This would make us much better on both offense and defense. Do we have enough money?

Mr. Laz · 02-02-2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

If it helps I ran into his brother at the GAP yesterday.

why aren't you banned anyway?

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Consistent1 _____________ Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	It is really hard to judge what Cassel is worth. He could end up being pretty darn good, or just about average. It is too bad that he did not get put on the spot in a playoff situation. He helped the team go 11-5, what could he have done with the added pressure? It is good and bad for him. On one hand, he did not get the chance to flop. On the other, if he had a good playoff run....he would be in line for a big payday and the Pats would have easily gotten a few nice trade offers. Was what he did during the season a fluke, did the team situation do it all for him, was it Welker and Moss? Who knows right now....
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wazimo Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Cassell If the Patriots would accept a 3rd rounder I would jump on it. I think they will more likely ask for a 1st and accept a 2nd. It's a little far fetched but I would love to p/up Haynesworth in Free agency then draft Oher or Curry in the first, trade the 2nd for Boldin, and our 3rd for Cassell. We still have a ton of young players on our roster. This would make us much better on both offense and defense. Do we have enough money?
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