Football Las Vegas Raiders? - Page 5

ChiefsCountry · 01-28-2016, 09:34 PM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...ng-leaked-memo

ALAMEDA, Calif. -- While a leaked memo from UNLV president Len Jessup said representatives of the Oakland Raiders will be in Las Vegas on Friday to check out potential stadium sites, team owner Mark Davis would offer only a cryptic comment.

"In typical Raider fashion," Davis said with a laugh over the phone from the Bay Area, "I can neither confirm nor deny."

Davis will be in Las Vegas and is scheduled to meet with Las Vegas Sands Chairman and CEO Sheldon Adelson, Sands spokesman Ron Reese confirmed.

The Sands Corp. announced Thursday that it was lending its support to build a $1 billion domed stadium on a vacant 42 acres of land recently purchased by UNLV near the corner of Tropicana Avenue and Koval Lane across from McCarran International Airport.

"Correspondingly, the Sands leadership team let us know that officials from the Oakland Raiders are scheduled to travel to Las Vegas and tour locations around the valley for a potential new home, and they have asked us to meet them at our 42-acre site on Friday morning to answer questions about that site," Jessup wrote in the memo, which was reported earlier by Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston.

UNLV is looking for a new home for its football program, which has played at 35,500-seat Sam Boyd Stadium some nine miles from campus on the eastern edge of the city since 1971.

According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Los Angeles-based Majestic Realty Co. and UNLV are involved in the conceptual plans, and Las Vegas Sands senior vice president of government relations and community development Andy Abboud said the project would be a "public-private" partnership, with the Sands or the Adelson family contributing a large portion of the financing.

"He said the casino company, which operates the Venetian and Palazzo [casinos], as well as casinos in Macau, Singapore and Pennsylvania, could also raise financing for the project," the Review-Journal reported.

Tony Sanchez, UNLV's head football coach, said "having an on-campus, state-of-the-art stadium would be huge."

"We have a nice stadium now; the location is just a little further out," said Sanchez, who grew up a die-hard Raiders fan in the Bay Area. "To have something on campus, right in the heart of Las Vegas, would change the entire game-day atmosphere. We're right near the Strip. People can walk or take public transportation. It would be a great addition for the city."

Davis has long stated that remaining in Oakland is his primary goal, but after being rebuffed in an attempt to move to Los Angeles and join the Chargers in a joint-stadium project in nearby Carson, the Raiders do not have a lease for a home stadium for the 2016 season. They do have the option to join the Rams in Inglewood should the Chargers decline.

It is expected that the Raiders will play at least the 2016 season in Oakland. They have also been linked to San Diego, should the Chargers go to Los Angeles, for the following years as well as to San Antonio.

The NFL has had a hard line against Las Vegas, and it is hard to see the league signing off on allowing a team to relocate to the gambling capital of the country. The NFL did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

Las Vegas has chased a major league franchise for almost two decades, including MLB and NBA teams. The city appears close to getting an NHL team in under-construction T-Mobile Arena between the New York-New York and Monte Carlo casinos.

And while Las Vegas may be a relatively small media market at No. 41 nationally, it is bigger than four other current NFL markets in Jacksonville (No. 48), New Orleans (No. 51), Buffalo (No. 52) and Green Bay (No. 68), per last year's Nielsen data.

Dayze · 01-29-2016, 08:18 PM

Raiders

I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan.

****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 01-30-2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Raiders

I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan.

****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

Like people who are "fans" of a team because it's the local franchise but would struggle to name two players on the team are somehow any better? BTW, the colors are actually silver & black. Do you even football much brah?

BWillie · 01-30-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon

Like people who are "fans" of a team because it's the local franchise but would struggle to name two players on the team are somehow any better? BTW, the colors are actually silver & black. Do you even football much brah?

Yes, much much better.

displacedinMN · 01-30-2016, 09:06 PM

How about the Nomadic Raiders.

Every week they play a home game in different city. College, pro, high school, world.

It could be a guessing game. Or cities could have a lottery to try to draw the Faid circus to their city.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-30-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN

How about the Nomadic Raiders.

Every week they play a home game in different city. College, pro, high school, world.

It could be a guessing game. Or cities could have a lottery to try to draw the Faid circus to their city.

As long as they're run by that buffoon of an owner, they're going to be a mess.

My biggest fear with the Raiders is that Mark Davis finally wakes up and realizes that he needs a partner or that he needs to sell, then a Peter Guber or Larry Ellison, et al, steps in to purchase the team, build an amazing stadium and have the smarts to hire an excellent front office.

That would blow.

Sully · 02-01-2016, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Raiders

I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds).

I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan.

****ing moron.

In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders.

That was me from about age 12 to 18 or so. It was the Yo, MTV Raps era, Bo was Bo, I was a fan of Howie Long. SO I had the starter jacket, the hats, jersey, etc.

I blame it on bad parenting.

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2016, 10:03 AM

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/2016...egas-this-week

What if I would have told you five months ago the Rams would be in place in Los Angeles and have the top pick in the NFL draft?

And that the Chargers and San Diego might be on their way to a stadium agreement that would keep the Bolts in America’s finest city?

And, finally, the Oakland Raiders would seriously be considering Las Vegas as a future home?

Crazy, right?

Not so fast.

The Rams are back home, and sitting at the top of the draft.

The Chargers are pushing a beautiful new stadium in downtown San Diego, and momentum is building to get things done.

As for the Raiders, it’s too soon to say Viva Las Raiders, but what seemed like a far-fetched idea a few months ago is growing into a full-fledged possibility.

And about to get a big-time push forward.

Raiders owner Mark Davis will be in Las Vegas Thursday when the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) meets to discuss plans to build a 65,000-seat stadium near the Las Vegas strip, and according to sources, Davis will offer a commitment to pursue a Raiders relocation there if financing for the $1.3 billion project is approved.

Davis is absolutely serious about targeting Las Vegas as the future home for his franchise, and sees the growing city as the ideal landing spot for the Raiders both locally and regionally.

In Las Vegas, the Raiders envision a home base that would enable them to tap into the furthest reaches of their fan base. Las Vegas would be their primary market, but its elements as one of the most popular destination points in America would be the magnet they use to draw in Raiders fans and season-ticket holders from across the country.

And they have some powerful people getting behind a stadium effort that might soon be their future home.

Sheldon Adelson of the Sands Corp Corporation is proposing a domed stadium near the Strip through a public-private partnership. The preliminary financing proposal calls for about two-thirds of the funding to come from taxes on tourists.

The SNTIC will review tourism-related projects for possible state funding at this week’s meeting, with the stadium proposal being one of the projects being considered. The committee is expected to make a recommendation later this summer.

Davis’ appearance Thursday – and the commitment he is expected to make – could be a difference maker. Davis will leave no doubt his franchise will pursue relocation to Las Vegas if the stadium project is approved.

“It’s huge because the committee sees (the Raiders) are serious,” a source close to the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Southern California News Group. “And if (the committee) approves the funding, there will be no stopping the train.”

Meanwhile, there is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it.

“It would be a good home for them,” said a high-ranking NFL source.

And it’s a Raiders landing spot that could play perfectly into an NFL game of connect-the-dots that appeases more than just Davis’ interests.

The Rams, Chargers, Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans and NFL all have reasons to support a Raiders move to Las Vegas.

The Raiders are one of two teams that have been approved for relocation to Los Angeles to join the Rams at their new stadium in Inglewood, which is scheduled to open in 2019.

The Chargers get first dibs, but will use at least the next year to pursue a long-term stadium solution in San Diego before acting on their Los Angeles option.

If the Chargers opt to remain in San Diego, the Raiders are next in line to join the Rams in L.A.

But the growing momentum in Las Vegas – and the possibility the stadium financing might soon be approved – will leave the Raiders with options.

And potentially position them to use some NFL misgivings about their presence in L.A. - and the league’s desire to keep a second spot open in L.A. to use a stadium leverage across the NFL - to overcome concerns about moving a franchise to Las Vegas.

The Raiders can likely count on support from Rams owner Stan Kroenke, as it would mean the Rams having Los Angeles all to themselves.

Meanwhile, Chargers owner Dean Spanos would have obvious motivation to keep the Raiders out of Los Angeles – or San Diego, should the Chargers relocate to L.A. - as it would eliminate the Raiders considerable competition from the Southern California region.

And if you’re Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys or Bob McNair of the Houston Texans, supporting a Raiders move to Los Vegas would mean keeping them out of San Antonio, a city the Raiders have long considered as a possible relocation destination.

Those are four likely votes for the Raiders, who would need 24 of 32 owners to sign off on their wishes.

Obviously there are concerns about Las Vegas – the close proximity to gambling and casinos first and foremost - but it would be a mistake to assume a Raiders move to Las Vegas would be opposed by the NFL.

And the NFL made that abundantly clear in a memo it sent to all teams last February.

In it, the NFL said: There is no prohibition under league rules on a team moving to any particular city. Any proposal for relocation would be evaluated based on the same standards as apply to any proposed move. Those standards are well-known, having just been applied in connection with relocation proposals to Los Angeles.

As a high-ranking league official told me at the owners meeting in Florida:

“I think it would be a mistake to just write Las Vegas off. It’s all predicated on getting the financing in order, but if they do, considering the Raiders brand and how well it could play in Las Vegas and all the various other dots that can be connected, the Raiders would have a very compelling argument to make.”

And NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell stressed in March at the league meetings that the casino implications don’t render a Raiders relocation a no-go.

“We’d have to understand it, we’d have to understand what the impact is on us and ultimately each owner would have a vote on that,” Goodell said, implying a softening in the league’s long-held stance on a team presence in Las Vegas.

One month later, the Raiders and Mark Davis are on the verge of making a commitment to Las Vegas.

It seemed far-fetched just a few months ago.

But that train is roaring down the tracks, and if the financing comes through there might not be anything stopping it.

Viva Las Raiders.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-26-2016, 10:06 AM

It's looking like Las Vegas is a serious option for the Raiders, especially since Davis has partnered up for a $1.8 billion dollar facility. Reportedly, the NFL will not stop them, either.

Personally, I think it would be cool and a great reason to hit Vegas each year.

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2016, 10:21 AM

You would have to think Chiefs and Broncos a yearly fan travel package to Vegas would be a great seller.

O.city · 04-26-2016, 10:42 AM

Seems like a great idea for opposing teams,dunno about the Raiders

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Seems like a great idea for opposing teams,dunno about the Raiders

Las Vegas is a Raiders town. They have radio affiliate, games on preseason etc.

O.city · 04-26-2016, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Las Vegas is a Raiders town. They have radio affiliate, games on preseason etc.

Eh, I'd say it's an any team town. It's cheap to get there, raider home games will be opposing fans on a weekend trip.

Gonna be great for vegas though.

**The Franchise** · 04-26-2016, 11:01 AM

I'd much rather go to Vegas instead of Oakland for a Chiefs/Raiders game.....and I'm an hour away from Oakland.

Eleazar · 04-26-2016, 11:01 AM

Why should Oakland have a team, anyway?

O.city · 04-26-2016, 11:05 AM

Hell yeah, I'd go for the chiefs game.

01-28-2016, 09:34 PM
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2408752	Las Vegas Raiders? http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...ng-leaked-memo ALAMEDA, Calif. -- While a leaked memo from UNLV president Len Jessup said representatives of the Oakland Raiders will be in Las Vegas on Friday to check out potential stadium sites, team owner Mark Davis would offer only a cryptic comment. "In typical Raider fashion," Davis said with a laugh over the phone from the Bay Area, "I can neither confirm nor deny." Davis will be in Las Vegas and is scheduled to meet with Las Vegas Sands Chairman and CEO Sheldon Adelson, Sands spokesman Ron Reese confirmed. The Sands Corp. announced Thursday that it was lending its support to build a $1 billion domed stadium on a vacant 42 acres of land recently purchased by UNLV near the corner of Tropicana Avenue and Koval Lane across from McCarran International Airport. "Correspondingly, the Sands leadership team let us know that officials from the Oakland Raiders are scheduled to travel to Las Vegas and tour locations around the valley for a potential new home, and they have asked us to meet them at our 42-acre site on Friday morning to answer questions about that site," Jessup wrote in the memo, which was reported earlier by Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston. UNLV is looking for a new home for its football program, which has played at 35,500-seat Sam Boyd Stadium some nine miles from campus on the eastern edge of the city since 1971. According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Los Angeles-based Majestic Realty Co. and UNLV are involved in the conceptual plans, and Las Vegas Sands senior vice president of government relations and community development Andy Abboud said the project would be a "public-private" partnership, with the Sands or the Adelson family contributing a large portion of the financing. "He said the casino company, which operates the Venetian and Palazzo [casinos], as well as casinos in Macau, Singapore and Pennsylvania, could also raise financing for the project," the Review-Journal reported. Tony Sanchez, UNLV's head football coach, said "having an on-campus, state-of-the-art stadium would be huge." "We have a nice stadium now; the location is just a little further out," said Sanchez, who grew up a die-hard Raiders fan in the Bay Area. "To have something on campus, right in the heart of Las Vegas, would change the entire game-day atmosphere. We're right near the Strip. People can walk or take public transportation. It would be a great addition for the city." Davis has long stated that remaining in Oakland is his primary goal, but after being rebuffed in an attempt to move to Los Angeles and join the Chargers in a joint-stadium project in nearby Carson, the Raiders do not have a lease for a home stadium for the 2016 season. They do have the option to join the Rams in Inglewood should the Chargers decline. It is expected that the Raiders will play at least the 2016 season in Oakland. They have also been linked to San Diego, should the Chargers go to Los Angeles, for the following years as well as to San Antonio. The NFL has had a hard line against Las Vegas, and it is hard to see the league signing off on allowing a team to relocate to the gambling capital of the country. The NFL did not respond immediately to a request for comment. Las Vegas has chased a major league franchise for almost two decades, including MLB and NBA teams. The city appears close to getting an NHL team in under-construction T-Mobile Arena between the New York-New York and Monte Carlo casinos. And while Las Vegas may be a relatively small media market at No. 41 nationally, it is bigger than four other current NFL markets in Jacksonville (No. 48), New Orleans (No. 51), Buffalo (No. 52) and Green Bay (No. 68), per last year's Nielsen data.
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01-29-2016, 08:18 PM	#61
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5259358	Raiders I wonder what percentage of Raiders fans are simply 'fans' because the colors are black and white, and primarily associated with (not the Raiders themselves, but merchandise) gangs/tough/hard core people (at least in their minds). I work with a guy who grew up here in KC. his parents are from here, yet he's a hardcore Raider fan. **ing moron. In this particular case, I really think he is a fan of them, not just their colors. but most fans of the team strike me as liking them because of the colors and 'image'. Our warehouse is full, uh.....spanish speaking people who can barely speak English, and it's 50/50 Raiders fans / Cowboys fans. Cowboys, I can understand. Raiders......well, I have my reasoning on why I think they like the Raiders. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed:** Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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01-30-2016, 09:06 PM	#64
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04-26-2016, 10:03 AM	#67
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2408752	http://www.dailynews.com/sports/2016...egas-this-week What if I would have told you five months ago the Rams would be in place in Los Angeles and have the top pick in the NFL draft? And that the Chargers and San Diego might be on their way to a stadium agreement that would keep the Bolts in America’s finest city? And, finally, the Oakland Raiders would seriously be considering Las Vegas as a future home? Crazy, right? Not so fast. The Rams are back home, and sitting at the top of the draft. The Chargers are pushing a beautiful new stadium in downtown San Diego, and momentum is building to get things done. As for the Raiders, it’s too soon to say Viva Las Raiders, but what seemed like a far-fetched idea a few months ago is growing into a full-fledged possibility. And about to get a big-time push forward. Raiders owner Mark Davis will be in Las Vegas Thursday when the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee (SNTIC) meets to discuss plans to build a 65,000-seat stadium near the Las Vegas strip, and according to sources, Davis will offer a commitment to pursue a Raiders relocation there if financing for the $1.3 billion project is approved. Davis is absolutely serious about targeting Las Vegas as the future home for his franchise, and sees the growing city as the ideal landing spot for the Raiders both locally and regionally. In Las Vegas, the Raiders envision a home base that would enable them to tap into the furthest reaches of their fan base. Las Vegas would be their primary market, but its elements as one of the most popular destination points in America would be the magnet they use to draw in Raiders fans and season-ticket holders from across the country. And they have some powerful people getting behind a stadium effort that might soon be their future home. Sheldon Adelson of the Sands Corp Corporation is proposing a domed stadium near the Strip through a public-private partnership. The preliminary financing proposal calls for about two-thirds of the funding to come from taxes on tourists. The SNTIC will review tourism-related projects for possible state funding at this week’s meeting, with the stadium proposal being one of the projects being considered. The committee is expected to make a recommendation later this summer. Davis’ appearance Thursday – and the commitment he is expected to make – could be a difference maker. Davis will leave no doubt his franchise will pursue relocation to Las Vegas if the stadium project is approved. “It’s huge because the committee sees (the Raiders) are serious,” a source close to the situation, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told the Southern California News Group. “And if (the committee) approves the funding, there will be no stopping the train.” Meanwhile, there is growing sentiment within the NFL that fellow owners are opening up to Las Vegas and granting Davis his wish to move there should he request it. “It would be a good home for them,” said a high-ranking NFL source. And it’s a Raiders landing spot that could play perfectly into an NFL game of connect-the-dots that appeases more than just Davis’ interests. The Rams, Chargers, Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans and NFL all have reasons to support a Raiders move to Las Vegas. The Raiders are one of two teams that have been approved for relocation to Los Angeles to join the Rams at their new stadium in Inglewood, which is scheduled to open in 2019. The Chargers get first dibs, but will use at least the next year to pursue a long-term stadium solution in San Diego before acting on their Los Angeles option. If the Chargers opt to remain in San Diego, the Raiders are next in line to join the Rams in L.A. But the growing momentum in Las Vegas – and the possibility the stadium financing might soon be approved – will leave the Raiders with options. And potentially position them to use some NFL misgivings about their presence in L.A. - and the league’s desire to keep a second spot open in L.A. to use a stadium leverage across the NFL - to overcome concerns about moving a franchise to Las Vegas. The Raiders can likely count on support from Rams owner Stan Kroenke, as it would mean the Rams having Los Angeles all to themselves. Meanwhile, Chargers owner Dean Spanos would have obvious motivation to keep the Raiders out of Los Angeles – or San Diego, should the Chargers relocate to L.A. - as it would eliminate the Raiders considerable competition from the Southern California region. And if you’re Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys or Bob McNair of the Houston Texans, supporting a Raiders move to Los Vegas would mean keeping them out of San Antonio, a city the Raiders have long considered as a possible relocation destination. Those are four likely votes for the Raiders, who would need 24 of 32 owners to sign off on their wishes. Obviously there are concerns about Las Vegas – the close proximity to gambling and casinos first and foremost - but it would be a mistake to assume a Raiders move to Las Vegas would be opposed by the NFL. And the NFL made that abundantly clear in a memo it sent to all teams last February. In it, the NFL said: There is no prohibition under league rules on a team moving to any particular city. Any proposal for relocation would be evaluated based on the same standards as apply to any proposed move. Those standards are well-known, having just been applied in connection with relocation proposals to Los Angeles. As a high-ranking league official told me at the owners meeting in Florida: “I think it would be a mistake to just write Las Vegas off. It’s all predicated on getting the financing in order, but if they do, considering the Raiders brand and how well it could play in Las Vegas and all the various other dots that can be connected, the Raiders would have a very compelling argument to make.” And NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell stressed in March at the league meetings that the casino implications don’t render a Raiders relocation a no-go. “We’d have to understand it, we’d have to understand what the impact is on us and ultimately each owner would have a vote on that,” Goodell said, implying a softening in the league’s long-held stance on a team presence in Las Vegas. One month later, the Raiders and Mark Davis are on the verge of making a commitment to Las Vegas. It seemed far-fetched just a few months ago. But that train is roaring down the tracks, and if the financing comes through there might not be anything stopping it. Viva Las Raiders.
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04-26-2016, 10:06 AM	#68
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	It's looking like Las Vegas is a serious option for the Raiders, especially since Davis has partnered up for a $1.8 billion dollar facility. Reportedly, the NFL will not stop them, either. Personally, I think it would be cool and a great reason to hit Vegas each year.
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04-26-2016, 10:21 AM	#69
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2408752	You would have to think Chiefs and Broncos a yearly fan travel package to Vegas would be a great seller.
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04-26-2016, 11:01 AM	#74
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04-26-2016, 11:05 AM	#75
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2834064	Hell yeah, I'd go for the chiefs game.
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