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Old 10-09-2017, 12:09 PM  
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So now it's Facebook's fault Trump got elected??

I am watching people on tv today crying about Facebook colluding with Trump and the Russians or something like that.

OMFG how desperate can you get?
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:18 PM   #16
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If you watched the story it kind of explains it all and yes Parscale actually believes it won the election for Trump.

As far as why I don't think they should allow them, well it is just a personal preference. I hate all the ****ing ads on all these sites so it is just not political ones. I also hate all the click bait stories as well. Facebook has really gone to shit.
Fair enough on your personal prefs, but when do people just accept the fact Hillary lost because of Hillary and not Facebook, Google, Russia, women, men, women-hating men, men-hating women, Bernie, Bernie supporters, white people, black people, all people, deplorable people, etc., etc.?

Why does the media not slap her in the face with the reality that she never walked into Wisconsin one time during her campaign and thought she would win it just because?
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:18 PM   #17
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I suppose this is in response to 60 minutes story on this last night?

If so I watched it and kudos to Brad Parscale for doing a great job for the Trump campaign in figuring out how to target people with Facebook and Twitter ads. Also credit goes to him and the Trump campaign for taking both companies up on their offer to help them something the Clinton campaign turned down.

And that really goes to the more troubling part of this story, I don't think Facebook, Twitter, Google should be embedding anybody in political campaigns. In fact I would go as far as saying I don't think Facebook and Twitter should allow political ads period.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/faceboo...secret-weapon/
That was a great segment. Pete should watch it.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:20 PM   #18
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That was a great segment. Pete should watch it.
I'd rather watch an interview where Hillary explains why she thinks she should have won states she barely, if that, even campaigned in?
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:23 PM   #19
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Hillary could have had the same embedded people and turned it down. Let's just pretend that didn't happen so we can bash Trump
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:24 PM   #20
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I'd rather watch an interview where Hillary explains why she thinks she should have won states she barely, if that, even campaigned in?
Pete, it's good segment. You should watch it.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:28 PM   #21
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Pete, it's good segment. You should watch it.
I've watched part. I found more humor in the host and follow up today than anything. People desperate to place blame on anyone but Hillary.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:32 PM   #22
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I'd rather watch an interview where Hillary explains why she thinks she should have won states she barely, if that, even campaigned in?
On the other hand does anyone really believe that having people listen to Hillary talk would have caused them to actually vote for her? I think her best strategy was maybe go to a couple blue states act popular and send Obama, Michele and Biden to the contested areas.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:33 PM   #23
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I am watching people on tv today crying about Facebook colluding with Trump and the Russians or something like that.

OMFG how desperate can you get?
Thanks for that very specific reference to whatever the **** you are talking about.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:34 PM   #24
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Fair enough on your personal prefs, but when do people just accept the fact Hillary lost because of Hillary and not Facebook, Google, Russia, women, men, women-hating men, men-hating women, Bernie, Bernie supporters, white people, black people, all people, deplorable people, etc., etc.?

Why does the media not slap her in the face with the reality that she never walked into Wisconsin one time during her campaign and thought she would win it just because?
I said as much right after she lost. She was a horrible candidate that didn't work hard enough to win because she took it for granted. That is not to say though that other outside forces didn't influence the election, for example the Comey letter did her no favors.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:43 PM   #25
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Oh well there you have it...Google, the very Dem-supporting company acknowledged that the Russians use the intrawebs....
They are saying more than that, but you don't care.
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:44 PM   #26
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Okay. But Google today seemed to acknowledge that Russians did indeed try to influence our election.
Good Lord almighty, you have got to be shitting me!
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Old 10-09-2017, 02:49 PM   #27
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Good Lord almighty, you have got to be shitting me!
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Donger, we are all aware Russia attempted to influence the election, I don't even know anyone who claims otherwise. This isn't news.
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Donger, we are all aware Russia attempted to influence the election, I don't even know anyone who claims otherwise. This isn't news.
Cough. Trump. Cough.
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I've watched part. I found more humor in the host and follow up today than anything. People desperate to place blame on anyone but Hillary.
I found it to be pretty fascinating. Using an algorithm to target specific personalities was not something I'd been aware of and I think for the money, it looks to be the way of the future.
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