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Old 02-02-2016, 12:05 PM   #331
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If he actually killed her, it ****ing blows my mind why that dipshit didn't crush her car and incinerate her body and belongings in the Smelter.

It's a salvage yard. The perfect place to make a murder disappear.
Burning the body but keeping the car makes zero sense. Also, using a burn pit but not the incinerator on the property.
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Old 02-02-2016, 12:07 PM   #332
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I've paid attention to both sides and after analyzing all of the evidence I'm pretty sure about one thing: The man is guilty.

Okay, my work here is done.
Well, at least you're consistent in the thoughtlessness of your opinions.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:09 PM   #333
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Well, at least you're consistent in the thoughtlessness of your opinions.
Hey now, it's not his fault he's mentally challenged. His mom sipped on anti-freeze throughout the entire pregnancy, so it's not his fault he was born that way.
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Old 02-02-2016, 04:08 PM   #334
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Old 02-02-2016, 04:20 PM   #335
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I don't know if anyone mentioned it but the reason there looks like a small needle went into the cap of the tube of blood is because when you draw blood a small needle is on the end of the tubing for the needle that goes into the tube. Also I have seen a few time when quite a bit of blood gets pooled on the outside of the cap. Maybe they used that blood to plant the evidence and if the did there wouldn't be any EDTA in the swabs.
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Old 02-03-2016, 04:42 AM   #336
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If he actually killed her, it ****ing blows my mind why that dipshit didn't crush her car and incinerate her body and belongings in the Smelter.

It's a salvage yard. The perfect place to make a murder disappear.
If he did do it, he deserves to be locked up for stupidity.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:28 PM   #337
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I don't know if anyone mentioned it but the reason there looks like a small needle went into the cap of the tube of blood is because when you draw blood a small needle is on the end of the tubing for the needle that goes into the tube. Also I have seen a few time when quite a bit of blood gets pooled on the outside of the cap. Maybe they used that blood to plant the evidence and if the did there wouldn't be any EDTA in the swabs.
I'm almost certain the EDTA test was more FBI junk science.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:41 PM   #338
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They called their own expert who pretty much said that the results of the test done by the FBI are inconclusive and you cant say whether or not there is EDTA in the blood.

I don't know what the tests entail but when its something that isn't tested for anymore and machines would need to be re-calibrated and the ETA for results was something like 4 months and they came back in 2 weeks sounds pretty sketchy on the validity of the results, imo.
People were paid off at a very high level. The amount of cover up and potential damages to A LOT of political and powerful figures were at stake.

and I'm sure they didn't even have to come close to the 36 million they were going to have to pay Avery.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:57 PM   #339
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I don't know if anyone mentioned it but the reason there looks like a small needle went into the cap of the tube of blood is because when you draw blood a small needle is on the end of the tubing for the needle that goes into the tube. Also I have seen a few time when quite a bit of blood gets pooled on the outside of the cap. Maybe they used that blood to plant the evidence and if the did there wouldn't be any EDTA in the swabs.
I don't understand what you are saying. EDTA is an anticoagulant. The minute it hits the test tube, the sample becomes homogenous. So why wouldn't there be any EDTA on the swabs?

And for that purple cap (EDTA) to have a hole through the top is very indicative of a draw down, unless of course they have a chain of custody to prove there was a lab draw down.
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I don't understand what you are saying. EDTA is an anticoagulant. The minute it hits the test tube, the sample becomes homogenous. So why wouldn't there be any EDTA on the swabs?

And for that purple cap (EDTA) to have a hole through the top is very indicative of a draw down, unless of course they have a chain of custody to prove there was a lab draw down.
The needle hole is not suspicious in my mind, the fact the evidence tape had been opened is to me though.
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The needle hole is not suspicious in my mind, the fact the evidence tape had been opened is to me though.
In the documentary it said that the lab did not stick needles through the cap. I would assume they just remove the cap then for draws. Coupled with the clearly broken evidence tape, there's some 'splainin' to do.
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Old 02-03-2016, 01:33 PM   #342
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In the documentary it said that the lab did not stick needles through the cap. I would assume they just remove the cap then for draws. Coupled with the clearly broken evidence tape, there's some 'splainin' to do.
The broken evidence tape is huge. It is common for labs to not open the cap and instead draw out of the tube. In fact many laboratory instruments do this. But again there would be lab chain of custody, why they drew out of said test tube, and testing parameters to back this.
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The broken evidence tape is huge. It is common for labs to not open the cap and instead draw out of the tube. In fact many laboratory instruments do this. But again there would be lab chain of custody, why they drew out of said test tube, and testing parameters to back this.
I believe all they had was Lenk signing the log to access the evidence. Nothing about anything else. That's very damning.
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I don't understand what you are saying. EDTA is an anticoagulant. The minute it hits the test tube, the sample becomes homogenous. So why wouldn't there be any EDTA on the swabs?

And for that purple cap (EDTA) to have a hole through the top is very indicative of a draw down, unless of course they have a chain of custody to prove there was a lab draw down.
When you draw blood there is a needle that goes inside the cap and that is the reason it looks like a needle had been put in that tube. Sometime when you pull the tube off of that small needle that goes in the cap of the tube it will leave blood on the outside of the the tube and kind of pool on the top of the cap.
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