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Old 12-01-2012, 02:15 PM  
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The state of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Now what...?

With so much anger built-up with this current regime, I can't help but cheer for them after wanting them to fail miserably.

What kind of state is this team and coaching staff in who witnessed this happen if reports are true? Crennel...a defensive coordinator by heart, obviously spent a lot of one-on-one time with this troubled individual. What is he thinking? Scott Pioli...there are banners flying over the stadium calling for your head, and now one of your men has taken the life of a mother and then himself. What is running through his head. Same goes for others who witnessed this tragedy. How do you continue doing your job in a professional manner...?

I have never been in such a situation, but it is one thing to witness someone take their own life, but it's another to witness a friend take such a cowardly route.

SOC...what now? I support the donation idea thrown around in the other threads. IMO, there should be no more banners in the air for the remainder of the season. Do we now go full-homer and support this team regardless of who is navigating the ship?

Finally...if Pioli and [somehow] Crennel return next season, do you support them after what they have witness has humans.

I could have thrown this in either of the two shooting threads, but I wanted to hear your thoughts on where you stand today with the Chiefs. Are you rooting for them to win the remainder of the games this season and whatever happens with our draft position happens....? Is this a matter of football vs real-life to you and as a fan, you still wish for failure in the FO and the #1 draft pick. Or are you somewhere in the middle?

I duno...curious to hear how others feel right now about the state of our franchise given this morning's tragic events. Where do you go from here...?
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:15 PM   #181
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A win isn't going to make them feel better.

NOTHING is going to make them feel better.

And if a win makes the fans feel better...well then SHAME on those fans.
Does that high horse shit the same crap you spew?
On one hand you say this isnt about football, and in one fail swoop talk about how fans rallying around their team after a tragedy would like a win for the teams sake.
So tell me again how we are supposed to seperate the two if you demand it and yet cant?
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:17 PM   #182
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We will be in a distinct minority on this board but I don't think so off of it.
I'm pretty sure you'll be in a minority anywhere being a Raider fan rooting for the Chiefs tomorrow.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:19 PM   #183
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If Pioli leaves, it will be on his terms.

It would not surprise me at all to see the guy step away from football completely after this. I know I probably would.

This is just unfathomable.
Numerous testimonies that Pioli treats people like shit.

I've wondered if something like this would make him re-evaluate his life.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:19 PM   #184
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hopefully pioli & crennel step down after this morning
Why should they? If this were a presidential race their poll numbers would shoot up dramatically. Sympathy votes.

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still need to fire Pioli and draft Geno Smith. Nothing has changed.

back to business.
Depending on the postseason and the combines, the Manti Te'o scenario might yet come to pass now. If he's really top pick material and not a creation of the media hype of Notre Dame, I can't see how the Chiefs would pass on him.

This means Wilson or Glennon might be our round 2 pick.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:20 PM   #185
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Depending on the postseason and the combines, the Manti Te'o scenario might yet come to pass now. If he's really top pick material and not a creation of the media hype of Notre Dame, I can't see how the Chiefs would pass on him.

This means Wilson or Glennon might be our round 2 pick.
It's pretty ****ing simple. The Chiefs pass on him because they need to draft the best quarterback available. An inside-linebacker simply isn't worth the number one pick.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:21 PM   #186
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Does that high horse shit the same crap you spew?
On one hand you say this isnt about football, and in one fail swoop talk about how fans rallying around their team after a tragedy would like a win for the teams sake.
So tell me again how we are supposed to seperate the two if you demand it and yet cant?
Sorry but none of that makes any sense.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:22 PM   #187
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Numerous testimonies that Pioli treats people like shit.

I've wondered if something like this would make him re-evaluate his life.
Would it surprise you?

Incidents like this tend to be "life altering".
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:23 PM   #188
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Sorry but none of that makes any sense.
I can see how comprehension eludes you
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:24 PM   #189
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I can see how comprehension eludes you
No, I'm being serious. The second sentence seems to be lacking a word or something. It simply doesn't make sense.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:25 PM   #190
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And just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that fans don't have a right to want a win. I'm not even suggesting that it's wrong to want a win.

I just don't understand how a win could possibly make anybody here feel better.

EDIT: Aha, I see it now - "the shame on" comment. Poor choice of words on my part. Not my place to judge.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:29 PM   #191
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The only thing that would make any fans feel better is realizing where the problem with this organization lies and remove it. Belcher just happens to be the next bad thing in a string of bad things. If fans were smart enough to pull it off I would tell all ticket holders to converge on wherever the poor little kid is and bring any sort of gift, food, clothes, money, etc they could and then go to the stadium and cheer the players who are there just to help them through it.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:30 PM   #192
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The only thing that would make any fans feel better is realizing where the problem with this organization lies and remove it. Belcher just happens to be the next bad thing in a string of bad things. If fans were smart enough to pull it off I would tell all ticket holders to converge on wherever the poor little kid is and bring any sort of gift, food, clothes, money, etc they could and then go to the stadium and cheer the players who are there just to help them through it.
I do like this idea...
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:24 PM   #193
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The team should have already starred a fund for the child that they would promote during games both in the stadium and during the television broadcast.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:39 PM   #194
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Yes, but this certainly makes it difficult for Clark to pull the trigger.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:08 PM   #195
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Does that high horse shit the same crap you spew?
On one hand you say this isnt about football, and in one fail swoop talk about how fans rallying around their team after a tragedy would like a win for the teams sake.
So tell me again how we are supposed to seperate the two if you demand it and yet cant?
I believe he is saying the opposite of this.
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