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Old 02-17-2014, 06:19 PM  
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Country Club Plaza = Bannister Mall part 2?
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - More than 100 teens converged on the Country Club Plaza Saturday night and created a ruckus for patrons and a lot of work for Kansas City police officers.

Read more: http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_n...#ixzz2tczs9I7u

Stories like those about the plaza have been rolling in for the last year or longer. At one point there was a shooting and they have put a curfew in place


I remember years ago bannister mall area was thriving. Hypermart and all the other surrounding stores were very popular and always busy. Crime slowly strangled the area and people chose to go elsewhere. The whole place turned into a ghost town. Obviously Cerner is building there now but the question I pose is simple

There are a lot of options other than the plaza around KC so...

Will the Plaza die the same way the Bannister area did?
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:28 AM   #91
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You forbid your 20 year old from going to the Plaza without you?
Let me rephrase that... I strongly suggest that they do not go at night or stay past 8pm. Unless I 'm with them or their boyfriends are. As a father of daughters I'm very protective of their safety and involved in their life. When they turn 21 and or move out they are hopefully prepared to face the world without help from Dad. I have raised 3 Daughters 24,20,and 17 and they are smarter and more mature than I'll ever be. But sometimes Parenting doesn't just stop at 18
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:28 AM   #92
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KCPD doesn't have the resources to arrest hundreds of kids a day.
Might have to pull some cops off chickenshit ticket detail.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:39 AM   #93
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I'm not sure what this means. Do you mean there is a movie theater down there, and they might be down there to see a movie? Then what are they doing roaming the streets if they are there to see a movie? Again, my parents would have never gone for that. If they took me to see a movie, they were waiting for me when it got out. There was a pizza hut next to the theater here in town that I worked at in high school. On Friday and Saturday nights, we'd have a hoard of them in front of our doors and it blocked customer traffic. This issue isn't exclusive to the plaza. Also, I'd have no problem with them being down there if they were respectful to others. They are blocking traffic, starting fights, and even firing shots. They are being a menace.
Surely, this isn't a serious question.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:41 AM   #94
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Surely, this isn't a serious question.


Oh, I believe it is.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:47 AM   #95
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Let me rephrase that... I strongly suggest that they do not go at night or stay past 8pm. Unless I 'm with them or their boyfriends are. As a father of daughters I'm very protective of their safety and involved in their life. When they turn 21 and or move out they are hopefully prepared to face the world without help from Dad. I have raised 3 Daughters 24,20,and 17 and they are smarter and more mature than I'll ever be. But sometimes Parenting doesn't just stop at 18
For some reason i was picturing you telling your 20 year old son he couldn't go out without daddy.
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:33 PM   #96
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Might have to pull some cops off chickenshit ticket detail.
I moved to KCMO from JOCO a few months ago - I don't think there are many cops doing ticket patrol. I saw at least 3 cars run red lights (not blow through a yellow, I mean be stopped at it and just decide to drive through) within that time.

There was a girl passed out on the sidewalk in Westport at 2am, the cops asked her if she was okay and then kept walking.

Its like thunderdome out here for little stuff like that - a bit of culture shock for me, in JOCO those small things were made to be a huge deal.
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I moved to KCMO from JOCO a few months ago - I don't think there are many cops doing ticket patrol. I saw at least 3 cars run red lights (not blow through a yellow, I mean be stopped at it and just decide to drive through) within that time.

There was a girl passed out on the sidewalk in Westport at 2am, the cops asked her if she was okay and then kept walking.

Its like thunderdome out here for little stuff like that - a bit of culture shock for me, in JOCO those small things were made to be a huge deal.
I've noticed this as well. I've seen people blow past cops on SW Trafficway, totally oblivious to the fact their was a patrol car to their left. Cops did jack shit.

Cops in Westport really don't give a shit about anything outside of public brawling, and even then I've seen them just break it up and tell people to get out of there.
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Ever drive on Metcalf? They'd need to militarize that street to ticket all the red light runners. The police couldn't do anything else.
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I moved to KCMO from JOCO a few months ago - I don't think there are many cops doing ticket patrol. I saw at least 3 cars run red lights (not blow through a yellow, I mean be stopped at it and just decide to drive through) within that time.

There was a girl passed out on the sidewalk in Westport at 2am, the cops asked her if she was okay and then kept walking.

Its like thunderdome out here for little stuff like that - a bit of culture shock for me, in JOCO those small things were made to be a huge deal.
There is 1 bitch who goes through the west plaza neighborhoods giving people parking tickets.
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The situations aren't the same, but they should probably consult with the Westport group which was plagued by shit in the late 2000's and is now thriving with new businesses and a strong vibe.
Shit. Westport will keep its mouth shut. More business for them
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There is 1 bitch who goes through the west plaza neighborhoods giving people parking tickets.
Parking tickets are no joke, they drive around outside my office building constantly and must give out hundreds of tickets a day.

But I don't think its real cops giving out parking tickets.
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Shit. Westport will keep its mouth shut. More business for them
There's too much money and power and prestige for the city associated to the Plaza. It will be law and order down there for a while I'm sure.

The thing is, it's not like the "youth" riot every weekend, it just happens occasionally.

But it sounds like they are down there making people feel uncomfortable all the time, and no matter what we think about that, if people feel uncomfortable they won't bring their money down there.
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Yeah, they'll get their parking revenue and set up the occasional checkpoint (SW Trafficway). Sometimes a cop will botch an investigation or something and they'll stick him with a radar gun right where you get on SW Trafficway from I35 S where the speed limit goes from 60 to 35 before you realize you're being pulled over. That's rare, though.
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Old 02-18-2014, 02:09 PM   #104
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I actually do admire the mobs on some level. When the private sector couldn't care less if you exist and your city government & school system can never get it together, why not make yourself heard in the most symbolic place in the city to do so.
I don't think they are there for that. they have community centers. They have consoles to keep them busy. They have 10x more things to keep them occupied than kids in the 90s.

If parents can drive them 20 plus minutes to loiter then their parents must not be doing too bad. School system? I grew up in independence, your parents either made you study or didn't give a shit.

it all goes back to parenting. Nothing more. To try and make it more is silly.
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There's too much money and power and prestige for the city associated to the Plaza. It will be law and order down there for a while I'm sure.

The thing is, it's not like the "youth" riot every weekend, it just happens occasionally.

But it sounds like they are down there making people feel uncomfortable all the time, and no matter what we think about that, if people feel uncomfortable they won't bring their money down there.
Ohh i agree with that. I am just saying Westport will not help. The city most certainly will.
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