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Old 12-06-2012, 11:33 PM  
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I know I am probably screwed but need advice

Make the situation quick, wanted my deck redecked and found a guy on craigslist that does it. His companies name is "brown can do" and he had been around for a long time and had done work for a family member several years ago. Anyway everything seemed legit.

With that said he came out to the house, he was a little rough dress wise but seemed to have his stuff together and at least talked the talk to make you feel better about it.

Said he would order the composite boards but needed a deposit for the materials ($2500)

I gave him the money and let me know a few days later than those boards were on backorder so I gave some other ideas and he has since not got back to me.

Here is the question ( I know I was a dumb ass for even giving him a deposit I get it) but I intentially didn't sign the check as my safety net and if he would have asked me about it I was going to tell him that as soon as I see an order I will sign it.

Needless to say he signed my check and cashed it and I have not hear from him since and its been a month.

Here is the question should I

1) Go to small claims court? he may not have a penny to piss in and would loose in a landslide

2) Go to my bank and tell them I didn't sign the check and see what happens from there?

Just curious which was would be better to go.
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:42 PM   #136
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:44 PM   #137
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Bob Dole had a project and it just went to shit after Phobia left.

And Bob Dole's wife got fat.
i didn't know bob dole had a wife...

oh wait, elizabeth something or other...
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:46 PM   #138
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Thanks for the kind words. She was fine. She was just far too kind for her own good and got screwed by her tenants. I wish we could have fixed all that stuff perfectly but hopefully the lipstick we put on the pig helped it sell. That was a real mess for all of us.
let me put in another good word...

phobia has dome relatively minor work for me but i would vouch for his work anytime...

one of the good guys out there, really...
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:16 PM   #139
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Phil's good people, does great work, he's a good boss too. Fun guy to be around while you work, easygoing, tells jokes, only an asshole when it's absolutely necessary, and he always keeps his word. Taught me more than a few things about light construction, decks, remodeling. Gives good advice to me whenever I need it. Plus he and CP hired me to play some jazz for a CP get together right when I moved back here in '05. Thanks Phil!
Edit - (to clarify: I worked for Phil on a couple of projects, not currently one of his employees)

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Old 05-18-2013, 08:51 PM   #140
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Can we get a mod to change the title to "Phobia bukkake thread"?
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:05 PM   #141
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This should probably be stuck to the top of the forum for a few months too.
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Old 05-18-2013, 09:20 PM   #142
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Since the topic took a turn into stroking Phobia's ego, I'll join in. I heard about his work through CP and figured I give him a call to do some work at my house. He does very good work at an affordable price. I was pleased with what was done and referred him to my parents with similar results. I can't say a bad word about him. Definitely worth a call to get a quote or even to bounce ideas off to. He gave me a few ideas on things that I would not of thought of myself. Really knowledgeable about his line of work.

While we are out giving recommendations on people. If you are looking to buy or sell a house I couldn't give a big enough recommendation to doomy3. He works his ass off and keeps you updated with everything going on. Another guy really knowledgable in his line of work and very honest.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:14 PM   #143
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Phil's good people, does great work, he's a good boss too. Fun guy to be around while you work, easygoing, tells jokes, only an asshole when it's absolutely necessary, and he always keeps his word. Taught me more than a few things about light construction, decks, remodeling. Gives good advice to me whenever I need it. Plus he and CP hired me to play some jazz for a CP get together right when I moved back here in '05. Thanks Phil!
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Remember when we had like 8 guys on that one project named some iteration of "Mike"? Even the concrete truck driver was named Mike.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:36 PM   #144
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I had to break up the love fest.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:56 AM   #145
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Wow, $2500 before he even did a lick of work. Who does that?
Synthesis2 does, pay attention.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:17 AM   #146
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I will buy the supplies and sit them in my yard... You will be working for me, you will either do business my way or go work for someone else ... Savvy?
Be careful if you provide too much. There is a tax form that the contractor can fill out saying that you should have have provided him W-2 Wages instead of a 1099. Then you're on the hook for his SE tax.

I don't know what the rules are though. But if you're providing everything, it sounds a lot like an employee than a contractor.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:21 AM   #147
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This scam is becoming quite popular. I never, ever ever give money for materials. If the company can't float the money for materials they should not be in business.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:23 PM   #148
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This scam is becoming quite popular. I never, ever ever give money for materials. If the company can't float the money for materials they should not be in business.
Depends on how much for how long. Home Depot can afford to float the cost of materials but if you special order something, you pay for it in advance. There's no absolute answer on it. I've deviated from my policies to make a client comfortable. But the real answer is that you don't do business with random idiots you found on the internet. Get a referral from a friend or pick somebody you know to be local and established.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:29 PM   #149
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Depends on how much for how long. Home Depot can afford to float the cost of materials but if you special order something, you pay for it in advance. There's no absolute answer on it. I've deviated from my policies to make a client comfortable. But the real answer is that you don't do business with random idiots you found on the internet. Get a referral from a friend or pick somebody you know to be local and established.

I've used Craigslist and it normally works out fairly well, you can screen people on their emails and their phone calls when you talk with them. Plus you can look up arrest records online if you want to.


I had a guy want money up front to paint my house, needed $500 for paint. I said, "Oh that's great! I have $200 in Home Depot gift cards and I can use them to go grab it today. When can you start?" One guy sulked on the phone saying he wasn't sure what his schedule was and that he'd have to call me back. Instantly I knew he was trying to scam.
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Old 05-19-2013, 12:57 PM   #150
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Remember when we had like 8 guys on that one project named some iteration of "Mike"? Even the concrete truck driver was named Mike.
Yeah that was pretty funny. "Hey Mike." - four guys all say "what". Jim and Barbara's new house as I recall.
"G@# d*#$&^t Barbara!" I still say that while impersonating him when I'm joking with the wife.
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