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Old 01-11-2018, 01:29 PM  
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Shattering Myths: The Chiefs second half offensive failures

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As expected, it wasn't the play calling except for 1 play call. It was execution by a few players and some bad play from the QB position with decisions and inaccuracy. It wasn't all on Alex but he deserves a lot of the blame IMO. He didn't lose this game on his own but he certainly didn't do anything to win this game and that's why we drafted Mahomes. QB won't fix all the problems with this team going forward as there are significant upgrades that need to be made, mostly on defense, both coaching and aging players. Great QB's often overcome mistakes that we saw in the 2nd half. Brady, Rodgers, Brees don't lose that game with the same playcalls and I'd argue a handful of other QB's don't lose that game either.

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Old 01-12-2018, 12:02 AM   #76
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Pretty decent season considering all the injuries. Losing Ware was huge especially with Hunt being an unknown. Eric Berry going down had a major impact on the defense. Hill being transformed into a deep threat WR and going into the season not having a true #1 (letting Maclin go). Who knew it was going to work? Conley goes down which set the offense back a little. Then Kelce goes down after dominating the Titans at a home playoff game. Wasted? Maybe just un****ing lucky or cursed.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:17 AM   #77
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yep. anyone who was paying attention could see that it was poor execution......we couldve won the game as called...if the players executed.

This is beyond opinion and simply factual at this point.

Sure maybe we could have done 'better' with another game plan / play calls..that isnt the point here.... we couldve & shouldve WON with what we went with, had only we executed better...

bottom line
How much do you out on Smith? Game was clinched if Butter hits that FG. Shit if Charles catches it too. Had Kelce been in that's a touchdown.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:15 AM   #78
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How much do you out on Smith? Game was clinched if Butter hits that FG. Shit if Charles catches it too. Had Kelce been in that's a touchdown.
How do you figure it's clinched? That makes it 24-10. Titans score 2 more TD's. 24-24 most likely. Down 22-21 Smith couldn't make it happen. Probably doesn't at 24 all either.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:26 AM   #79
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The best running back in the NFL had 11 carries in the whole game, despite the fact, that the Chiefs had a double-digit lead for almost the entire game. That's poor playcalling.
They mentioned the two same plays I have brought up numerous times.

Hunt runs for nine, leaving third and one. QB read option gets stuffed.

I just can't rewatch the game past that point.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:35 AM   #80
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One thing that wasn't mentioned about the Saints/Panthers game is how the Saints defense bent and didn't break for four field goals. If the Chiefs had bent instead of broken on any one of those second half drives, the Chiefs would have won. For some reason, this team seems to lose key players at the exact wrong time in games.

The Titans took out Kelce, doubled Hill and stacked the line to stop Hunt. I'm pretty sure that I've read on this board that the way to beat the Chiefs is to make Smith throw the difficult passes (mid-range). It appeared to me during the game that Alex gave up too early and left a couple of clean pockets in the second half. Where did that WTF attitude go?

I still don't understand why they don't run more play action or bring the sausage into the backfield and simply use him for a lead block on those short yardage plays. Teams stacking the box are taking a big risk because if a hole opens, the running back is gone.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:24 AM   #81
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This isn't going through a progression.



This is even less progressive.



That's a bunch of ****ing bullshit that loses playoff games.
On the 3rd down he decided he was running almost immediately. Which means a 33 year old NFL QB trusts his legs more than his arm, yea that's how you win let me tell ya.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:30 AM   #82
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They were BOTH third downs.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:33 AM   #83
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One thing that wasn't mentioned about the Saints/Panthers game is how the Saints defense bent and didn't break for four field goals.
Chiefs defense gives up 397 yards and 22 points to the Titans.

Saints defense gives up 413 yards and 26 points to the Panthers.

Chiefs fans praise Saints defense.



We've got to be the dumbest ****ing fan base in America.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:36 AM   #84
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Ok in the second play he literally has 2 WR's break open on the left side of the play and doesn't even consider throwing it there.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:38 AM   #85
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The one on the bottom, look at it closely. Look closely at the LOS and the defenders that Alex tries to split.

Alex gambled that he would continue to have a rush lane. It looked at the time like it would indeed be there. Then what happens?

The DL in front of Witz instantly turns in, and the DL being "doubled" spins... SPINS away from Fulton.

An amazing DL play.. and as it turned out.. a gamble that Alex and KC lose here.

IF the DL does not spin and make that play? there's a very good chance that Alex picks up lots of yardage.. and everyone then praises his efforts.

That's life of a pro QB. Split second decisions that can make you the hero or failure.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:42 AM   #86
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Alex gambled that he would continue to have failure.
Fixed your post.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:46 AM   #87
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Chiefs defense gives up 397 yards and 22 points to the Titans.

Saints defense gives up 413 yards and 26 points to the Panthers.

Chiefs fans praise Saints defense.



We've got to be the dumbest ****ing fan base in America.


Saints have a QB that is not scared to throw TD passes.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:03 AM   #88
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3rd and 13 and this clown runs the ball almost immediately. That alone tells you all you need to know.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:08 PM   #89
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Alex Smith is always going to do what Alex Smith does when those plays are called in that situation, especially when his blankie is sidelined with a concussion. So why put the ball in his hands in the first place, knowing as we allllll do, that the first half was the aberration, that he almost never plays like that for four quarters.

That is why the problem was the play calling. Those plays were never going to be executed by him at that point. So they never should have been called in the first place.

At the end of the day it's all Andy Reid. He's the reason we have Smith in the first place, and he's the one with more than a decade's history of abandoning the run game in the most meaningful and damaging situations.

The only way we ever get beyond his limitations as a HC is if Mahomes turns into Aaron Rodgers. Because Andy is a bizarro-world passing-obsessed Marty Schottenheimer and the only thing that can overcome that is the arrival of a Joe Montana level talent behind center.

Coaching lost that game and no amount of sports blogging is going to change my mind about that, although I enjoy the effort.
That may be the best recap of the Chiefs current situation I have seen. Well done.
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The one on the bottom, look at it closely. Look closely at the LOS and the defenders that Alex tries to split.

Alex gambled that he would continue to have a rush lane. It looked at the time like it would indeed be there. Then what happens?

The DL in front of Witz instantly turns in, and the DL being "doubled" spins... SPINS away from Fulton.

An amazing DL play.. and as it turned out.. a gamble that Alex and KC lose here.

IF the DL does not spin and make that play? there's a very good chance that Alex picks up lots of yardage.. and everyone then praises his efforts.

That's life of a pro QB. Split second decisions that can make you the hero or failure.
On 3rd and 13, a QBs first choice should never be to tuck and run.
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