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Old 01-11-2018, 01:29 PM  
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Shattering Myths: The Chiefs second half offensive failures

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As expected, it wasn't the play calling except for 1 play call. It was execution by a few players and some bad play from the QB position with decisions and inaccuracy. It wasn't all on Alex but he deserves a lot of the blame IMO. He didn't lose this game on his own but he certainly didn't do anything to win this game and that's why we drafted Mahomes. QB won't fix all the problems with this team going forward as there are significant upgrades that need to be made, mostly on defense, both coaching and aging players. Great QB's often overcome mistakes that we saw in the 2nd half. Brady, Rodgers, Brees don't lose that game with the same playcalls and I'd argue a handful of other QB's don't lose that game either.

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Old 01-11-2018, 04:21 PM   #16
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So you wanted the Chiefs to go FULL Martyball, when Kareem Hunt was getting shut down.



If the Chiefs had just caught passes, or if Alex had made ONE throw at the end of the game, or if Butker had made his FG they probably would have won.

So, so, so not Andy Reid's fault.
You forgot the part about if the Defense would have made just one frigging stop in the 2nd Half!
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Old 01-11-2018, 04:24 PM   #17
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These two crucial 3rd down plays really exemplify why Smith is what he is. In both cases, simply step up into the pocket, keep your eyes downfield, and you likely convert both times. So frustrating. Mahomes looks like he will excel at exactly this.





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Old 01-11-2018, 06:00 PM   #18
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I think we forget that these are people, Hill had just suffered a family loss, Kelce got targeted and Jones injured. Once the Tightens started mounting a comeback, it turned into a perfect storm that included fluke plays, bad decisions and from what I could tell, poor effort.





There is no way that's an autocorrect. Wtf happened there, bro?
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:08 PM   #19
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The best running back in the NFL had 11 carries in the whole game, despite the fact, that the Chiefs had a double-digit lead for almost the entire game. That's poor playcalling.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:09 PM   #20
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The best running back in the NFL had 11 carries in the whole game, despite the fact, that the Chiefs had a double-digit lead for almost the entire game. That's poor playcalling.
The best RB in the NFL was getting shut down.

He had a 16-yard run and averaged 2.6 YPC on the other 10.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:12 PM   #21
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There is no way that's an autocorrect. Wtf happened there, bro?
Intentional misspelling of Titans. From Megamind movie. Seemed appropriate. Makes the Chiefs failure seem a bit less disheartening.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:14 PM   #22
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The best RB in the NFL was getting shut down.

He had a 16-yard run and averaged 2.6 YPC on the other 10.
I wouldn't call 3.8 YPC "shut down." Plus, it's not all about YPC. It's about running out clock, keeping your defense off the field, grinding out tough yards, and wearing the other defense out. Throwing three straight short passes/incompletions when you're up by two or three scores does nothing but open up the floodgates for a comeback.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:16 PM   #23
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once again with the all22.

Any douche can go thru a game and find plays were even Brady screws up or Rodgers. Its just plain stupid to be looking at the plays from above when the players on the field don't see it that way. Don't know why some of you idiots don't get that. They don't have a helmet cam that shows everything like that and does this guy tell us what the progression was? Got to know that cause every play has a progression, which most don't also seem to understand, so even if a wr breaks open he may not bee seen due to the progression. This is basic stuff but not in this place.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:18 PM   #24
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I wouldn't call 3.8 YPC "shut down." Plus, it's not all about YPC. It's about running out clock, keeping your defense off the field, grinding out tough yards, and wearing the other defense out. Throwing three straight short passes/incompletions when you're up by two or three scores does nothing but open up the floodgates for a comeback.
Andy Reid didn't tell Smith to check it down, dude. Nor did he drop the passes.

I can't BELIEVE there are people on here advocating for Martyball. Reid is damned no matter what he does.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:21 PM   #25
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Yet Brees won because his defense was able to stop the dynamic Cam Newton who didn’t even give their offense a chance to make a game winning play by taking a sack. Sorry this has no validity. Brady lost to Eli how many times? Rodgers had a chance to get his team into the playoffs and choked.
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even if a wr breaks open he may not bee seen due to the progression.
This isn't going through a progression.



This is even less progressive.



That's a bunch of ****ing bullshit that loses playoff games.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:23 PM   #27
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once again with the all22.

Any douche can go thru a game and find plays were even Brady screws up or Rodgers. Its just plain stupid to be looking at the plays from above when the players on the field don't see it that way. Don't know why some of you idiots don't get that. They don't have a helmet cam that shows everything like that and does this guy tell us what the progression was? Got to know that cause every play has a progression, which most don't also seem to understand, so even if a wr breaks open he may not bee seen due to the progression. This is basic stuff but not in this place.
That's stupid as ****. It should easier to see some of those guys open from where Smith is. Harris and Wilson both flashed in front of his face. As the QB, surely to God he knows what the routes are before the play happens. You should be able to anticipate those openings.

The guy decided to try to scramble for yards, which he failed at, as opposed to giving one of his receivers a chance to make a play. Hell, not even that. Just a simple catch.

And DO NOT give me some bullshit response about how they might drop the pass. If they do, then ok, that's their fault. But it's the QBs job to give them the chance.
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Yet Brees won because his defense was able to stop the dynamic Cam Newton who didn’t even give their offense a chance to make a game winning play by taking a sack. Sorry this has no validity. Brady lost to Eli how many times? Rodgers had a chance to get his team into the playoffs and choked.
Do you think the Saints even have that lead if not for Drew Brees making tons of plays throughout the game?
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Yet Brees won because his defense was able to stop the dynamic Cam Newton
The Panthers scored more points than the Titans.

Brees put up 31, including 10 in the second half, and threw for more yards on the opening drive of the third quarter than Smith did the entire second half.

Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
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Do you think the Saints even have that lead if not for Drew Brees making tons of plays throughout the game?
He also threw an int that gave them a chance to lose the game but his defense stepped up in the final seconds. Do the Titans have to make a comeback if it wasn’t for Smith making plays?
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