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Old 01-11-2018, 01:29 PM  
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Shattering Myths: The Chiefs second half offensive failures

Easier to read by going to the link on arrowhead pride but the spoiler tag has the article.

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As expected, it wasn't the play calling except for 1 play call. It was execution by a few players and some bad play from the QB position with decisions and inaccuracy. It wasn't all on Alex but he deserves a lot of the blame IMO. He didn't lose this game on his own but he certainly didn't do anything to win this game and that's why we drafted Mahomes. QB won't fix all the problems with this team going forward as there are significant upgrades that need to be made, mostly on defense, both coaching and aging players. Great QB's often overcome mistakes that we saw in the 2nd half. Brady, Rodgers, Brees don't lose that game with the same playcalls and I'd argue a handful of other QB's don't lose that game either.

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Old 01-11-2018, 01:32 PM   #2
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What I've been trying to say all week... far too much blame put on Reid/Nagy.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:33 PM   #3
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:34 PM   #4
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yep. anyone who was paying attention could see that it was poor execution......we couldve won the game as called...if the players executed.

This is beyond opinion and simply factual at this point.

Sure maybe we could have done 'better' with another game plan / play calls..that isnt the point here.... we couldve & shouldve WON with what we went with, had only we executed better...

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Old 01-11-2018, 01:54 PM   #5
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Shhhhhh.

It was all the play calling. Alex was GREAT!

He is totally worth a 1st round draft pick and more. ; )
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:16 PM   #6
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Unfortunately, it happens in a lot of sports. i was never at the level of professionals however I can remember bowling leagues where one team would start out really strong and then when the other team started to get hot, couldn't find a way to get a strike or spare.

I think we forget that these are people, Hill had just suffered a family loss, Kelce got targeted and Jones injured. Once the Tightens started mounting a comeback, it turned into a perfect storm that included fluke plays, bad decisions and from what I could tell, poor effort.

I believe this is why the Chiefs struggle so much when they are favored; there's no pressure when you are the underdog. They can't handle success.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:24 PM   #7
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What I've been trying to say all week... far too much blame put on Reid/Nagy.
Then it's on Alex to audible into a ****ing running play?

A good, quick hitting one. Like an ISO. not a R/PO.

Ffs.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:25 PM   #8
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Shhhhhh.

It was all the play calling. Alex was GREAT!

He is totally worth a 1st round draft pick and more. ; )
(Especially Cleveland's)
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:05 PM   #9
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The only myth that needs to be shattered is treating Arrowhead Pride like it has some kind of journalistic value.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:09 PM   #10
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The only myth that needs to be shattered is treating Arrowhead Pride like it has some kind of journalistic value.
The article is right.

There were ZERO screens called. The ONLY sideways pass was Alex taking a checkdown. And Alex had open receivers down the field.

Go look at the All 22 yourself if you doubt so.
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:20 PM   #11
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The only myth that needs to be shattered is treating Arrowhead Pride like it has some kind of journalistic value.
He does a fabulous breakdown of the all 22. And each play, some of his breakdown and some of Baldingers breakdown (links in the article) are in there to see. With the all 22, you can see the entire field and see open WR's, missed block, an open hole that the RB missed, happy feet etc. It's not opinion...you can see it all for yourself. He does offer his opinions in the article but also presents the evidence so you can make your own conclusions.

Yes, a lot of their articles are no different than any other blog website out there...but the all 22 articles by Seth Keysor are legit.

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Old 01-11-2018, 03:21 PM   #12
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The only myth that needs to be shattered is treating Arrowhead Pride like it has some kind of journalistic value.
Eh, thats not really fair IMO... some of those guys really do their homework and it shows in their pieces, like this one
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Exactly. All the bickering back and forth about what the problem is and it comes down to the QB. If there’s a better qb than Smith back there we win that game despite all the other flukey BS. I bet we win that game of mahomes was back there but I get why some would disagree with that. Alex Smith is holding this team back and the Chiefs have got to move on.
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The article is right.

There were ZERO screens called. The ONLY sideways pass was Alex taking a checkdown. And Alex had open receivers down the field.

Go look at the All 22 yourself if you doubt so.
Alex Smith is always going to do what Alex Smith does when those plays are called in that situation, especially when his blankie is sidelined with a concussion. So why put the ball in his hands in the first place, knowing as we allllll do, that the first half was the aberration, that he almost never plays like that for four quarters.

That is why the problem was the play calling. Those plays were never going to be executed by him at that point. So they never should have been called in the first place.

At the end of the day it's all Andy Reid. He's the reason we have Smith in the first place, and he's the one with more than a decade's history of abandoning the run game in the most meaningful and damaging situations.

The only way we ever get beyond his limitations as a HC is if Mahomes turns into Aaron Rodgers. Because Andy is a bizarro-world passing-obsessed Marty Schottenheimer and the only thing that can overcome that is the arrival of a Joe Montana level talent behind center.

Coaching lost that game and no amount of sports blogging is going to change my mind about that, although I enjoy the effort.
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Alex Smith is always going to do what Alex Smith does when those plays are called in that situation, especially when his blankie is sidelined with a concussion. So why put the ball in his hands in the first place, knowing as we allllll do, that the first half was the aberration, that he almost never plays like that for four quarters
So you wanted the Chiefs to go FULL Martyball, when Kareem Hunt was getting shut down.



If the Chiefs had just caught passes, or if Alex had made ONE throw at the end of the game, or if Butker had made his FG they probably would have won.

So, so, so not Andy Reid's fault.
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