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Mellinger: Fire Sutton

Chiefs need change, and they should begin by firing defensive coordinator Bob Sutton
BY SAM MELLINGER

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UPDATED 40 MINUTES AGO

Bob Sutton needs to be fired.

The Chiefs should be looking for a new defensive coordinator. There is no joy in calling for a manís job, but then, there is no joy in watching a defense underperform its talent and fair expectations over and over and over again.

This canít continue. That is plain. That is obvious.

Andy Reid isnít ready to talk about this yet and thatís fine, thatís understandable, thatís his right. Whatís more ó thatís smart.


The head coach lives this in a way that requires space for any major change. Emotional decisions are usually bad decisions, and Reid had to know the Will You Fire Your DC question was coming in the postmortem press conference the day after another embarrassing postseason collapse.

And he had to know he would answer it with a vague non-answer.

ďTime in this league has a funny way of working,Ē Reid said. ďYouíve gotta step back. Youíve gotta evaluate. Youíve gotta go through that process. Look at whatís real, and whatís not. You donít want to do it when youíre emotional or still tied into what happened obviously last night.

ďYouíve gotta fight that. A question like that, youíve gotta fight that. You step back and you evaluate it, and do whatís right for the Chiefs. If you always come back to that, youíre going to be OK.Ē

Thatís an 86-word excerpt from a longer answer that can be generally summarized: ďI just had my heart ripped out, again, and am not yet ready to make any decision more serious than lunch.Ē

Chiefs' Andy Reid reflects on Wild Card playoff loss: 'We've got to do better'
Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid held a press conference a day after the Chiefsí 22-21 loss to the Tennessee Titans in an AFC Wild Card playoff game. It was the Chiefs' sixth straight home playoff loss, a NFL record.

Allison Long The Kansas City Star
Again, you can understand where heís coming from. Even if he somehow has already decided to move on from Sutton, he hasnít had a chance to tell his friend and longtime assistant yet, and taking some time comes with no downside.

Potential replacements arenít being hired, and in fact may still be working. More to the point, Reidís coaching philosophy centers around personal accountability.

After every loss, he says some form of, ďwe need to get better and that starts with me.Ē After the offense played dead in the second half against the Titans, Reid said he called the plays that didnít work and assistant Matt Nagy called the plays that did.

Firing his defensive coordinator the next day would reek of scapegoating.

But if he hasnít yet, Reid must soon come to the cold and unemotional conclusion that the Chiefs need a new voice for the defense.

That needs to be only part of the change. Alex Smith must be replaced by Patrick Mahomes, offensive line coach Andy Heck needs to make a convincing case to keep his job, and no position group on the team underperformed as much as the defensive line coached by Reidís son Britt.

Reid himself should wear the biggest chunk of this loss. He just finished his 19th season as a head coach and by now has earned a reputation for regular season success and postseason failure.

Seventy-eight teams have led by 18 or more at halftime of a playoff game. Only four have lost, and two have been coached by Reid in the last five seasons. He is tied for the third-most playoff losses of any coach in NFL history, and the two ahead of him won multiple Super Bowls.

Chiefs are on this list twice: Teams blowing an 18-point halftime lead in NFL playoffs
According to ESPN research, Andy Reid's Chiefs teams are responsible for two of the only four times in modern NFL playoff history a team has blown an 18-point or larger halftime lead.

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Since 2001, he has won just one playoff game as the underdog, and lost seven as the favorite.

The loss to the Titans followed a familiar pattern: the offense went cold, the defense couldnít get off the field and the Chiefs had a chance to win at the end and failed.

The standard for this team was always postseason success, so the outcome is a failure, and any credible evaluation of another wasted opportunity must acknowledge Reidís share of this.

But heís not going anywhere, for better or worse. Chairman Clark Hunt values the stability Reid has created after the horror show Pioli years, Reid signed a contract extension last summer, and heíll oversee the quarterback transition to Patrick Mahomes.

Sutton has no excuse, and no cushion.

The Chiefs were 28th in total defense, and 27th in yards surrendered per play. They could not stop the run (24th in yards per carry, 202 given up in the playoff loss), which tended to overshadow the fact that they could not stop the pass (24th in yards per attempt).

Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson: 'If youíre good enough, you come out with that win'
Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Derrick Johnson called Saturday's playoff loss to the Titans one of the toughest of his career.

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The advanced metrics, if anything, are worse. Football Outsidersí DVOA ranks the Chiefs dead last in the league in overall defense.

This fits what the eye sees, too. They could not get off the field on third down (23rd, and second worst among playoff teams), and could not adjust to opponentsí schemes. Sutton allowed Daniel Sorensen to be exposed against the run for far too long, didnít do enough to scheme pressure, and was far too easy to manipulate.

His scheme had Justin Houston rushing the passer or dropping into coverage based on what the offense showed, which meant the other side was controlling what the Chiefsí best player did on any given snap.

Sutton had enough to work with, too, even after losing Eric Berry for the season. The Chiefs spend more than half their salary cap on defense, and thatís with stars like Chris Jones and Marcus Peters still on rookie deals, and Reggie Ragland playing for relative peanuts.

If it was bad luck that Berry played just one game, it was good luck that Houston played 17. The injury excuse is a tired one, anyway. Every team has something. The Titans had two defensive starters on IR, and they managed.

Coaches are supposed to put their players in position to succeed, and far too often, Sutton was doing the opposite. The Patriots gave up an average of 32 points in their first four games (including a season-high 42 to the Chiefs in the opener) and then an average of just 14 the rest of the way.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick is an unrealistic standard for defensive scheme, but this is two years in a row the Chiefs have lost a playoff game at home as the betting favorite largely because they could not stop the run and get off the field on third down.

Against the Titans, a team with a struggling quarterback and dangerous running back, the Chiefs used far too much nickel and even dime personnel ó including on Derrick Henryís 35 yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter.

Whether that was because the Titans were able to influence the Chiefsí substitutions with their own personnel, or because Sutton made the decision on his own is irrelevant. This just canít continue.

Let us say it one more time: Sutton is not the only problem, and may not even be the biggest.

Reid is Suttonís boss, and couldíve better protected his defense and an 18-point lead with more carries for the leagueís leading rusher.

Even so, the offense couldíve won the game on its last possession, and this is a staggering fact: all but one of the Chiefsí losses this season couldíve been wins if the offense performed better on its last drive.

The Chiefs arenít giving the next defensive coordinator a fair shot if they donít improve the personnel, too, which is part of why the team needs to replace Smith with Mahomes. The change would create $17 million in cap space and whatever draft picks they can acquire in a trade, which is enough for a corner, edge rusher, and defensive lineman.

There can be no doubt, in any part of the organization, about whether change is needed. We can have lively and smart debates about how far that change needs to go.

But there is no question that it needs to include the defensive coordinator, whenever Reid is ready.

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Old 01-07-2018, 09:51 PM   #106
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Detroit’s defense has gone from being ranked 3rd in yards per game during Austin’s first season to 27th in yards per game this season (just above Sutton’s 28th ranked defense).
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Old 01-07-2018, 09:54 PM   #107
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Agreed BUT it also say's lack of playmaking talent as well IMHO.
Marcus Peters, Chris Jones, Reggie Ragland, $130 million supposed franchise defensive player Justin Houston... that isnít enough talent to prevent an opposing offense ranked 25th in third down conversion % from going 7/7 on third downs in the second half?
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:01 PM   #108
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:03 PM   #109
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I believe they already owned the record before the game. They just extended it.
I suspect it's one we'll never relinquish. It takes two generations of Hunt owner-shit to get the record, and more Hunts to keep it going.
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:08 PM   #110
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Meh, come on.

Thats pretty hyperbolic
No, it's Truth !! NFL means "not for long" and our draft picks for the most part on defense have not panned into talented depth whatsoever. However we waited too long for development with most of these defensive picks. We MUST DO a better job drafting guys that can show they can play almost immediately and by at least the 2nd yr be starting. If they are not starting or rotating getting a lot of time being a legit playmaker by the 2nd yr then we move on PERIOD. e.g. Phillip Gaines
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Marcus Peters, Chris Jones, Reggie Ragland, $130 million supposed franchise defensive player Justin Houston... that isnít enough talent to prevent an opposing offense ranked 25th in third down conversion % from going 7/7 on third downs in the second half?
Peters is not a physical player thus does not defend the run at all. Chris Jones was out - so where is the adequate talented depth of development to take his place? Ragland has performed well but he can't do it all himself. Houston not only being used wrong too your point BUT where is the opposite side pass rushing talent to not allow offenses to key on Houston alone to take him out ?

Titans are physical and they ran all over us. Peters ain't going to stop Henry. Chris Jones is out. Ragland can't do it all. And Houston can be keyed on.

Where is all this defensive talented depth that is supposed to be there when you need it ? We have very little if any IMHO.
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He owns 2 of the worst defensive collapses in the history of the playoffs in only 5 years on the job. Get. The. ****. Out.
But it's perfectly fine for the alledged strength of your team, the offense to lay a goose egg in the entire second half, including 6 yards of offense in the third quarter. If the D is so ****ing bad, why would you continually go 3 and out and put them back out there?



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But it's perfectly fine for the alledged strength of your team, the offense to lay a goose egg in the entire second half, including 6 yards of offense in the third quarter. If the D is so ****ing bad, why would you continually go 3 and out and put them back out there?



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You are legit retarded if you can't see how Sutton is a part of this problem. Smith was ****ing atrocious in the 2nd half but the defense was just as bad.
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You are legit retarded if you can't see how Sutton is a part of this problem. Smith was ****ing atrocious in the 2nd half but the defense was just as bad.
Exactly. The offense spotted you 18 points _efense. Go protect it in the 2nd half. We're going to suck ourselves for the whole 2nd half, but only 3 times in NFL HISTORY, going into this game, has a team given up a 2nd half 18-point lead and lost (we just happen to be one of those teams just 3 years ago) so we feel that you should be able to survive. Jeeeeez this is so simple.


I will say it was so STUPID for the offense to go into a shell and put it on the shoulders of the 28th ranked _efense... I think Kelce going down had a lot to do with that though. Still, 18 points, is 18 points. _efense should have been able to protect that lead.
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2nd half Defense:

- You have to play the run and get out of the nickle/dime package. Call a time out if you have to. They got gashed all year on it. Make the adjustment. You have two good corners, let them man up and make Mariota beat you from the pocket.

- Tackling was soft all year and it raised its head again. Wrap up, gang tackle and be nasty.

- Houston is paid to be an impact player. Where was he? He is one of our only two remaining super stars on defense and he was invisible in the post season, again. I don't want to hear about how he was dropped into coverage too often, because he was a non-factor when he tried to rush the passer.

offense/special teams

- Once Kelce went down, Uno e Fatto and Nagy were clueless.

- 3 impact offensive players. One went down with an injury. One wasn't given the ball and one dropped 3 or 4 easy passes.

- Stupid penalties.

- Switching to an ineffective horizontal attack instead of feeding Hunt.

- Smith getting happy feet the entire second half.

- No decent TE on the roster other than Kelce.

- Let's be honest, Smith bailed Andy and Robinson out at the end of the first half. Holy questionable clock management and execution.

- Nobody is really talking about the missed field goal and "drive" that led to it, but it was as bad as you can get.
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Time to bring some beef to KC

After the Steelers killed our defensive front 7 in the playoffs I thought for sure it would be addressed. It wasn't. So no wonder Dorsey is gone and no wonder we blow an 18 point lead to a running team

"But the running game is irrelevant in today's game". Lol maybe if competent run defense is being played but we haven't seen that in 2 years in KC.

Unacceptable to lose another playoff game because of that.
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