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Old 04-09-2017, 08:57 AM  
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Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class?

I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center.

I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE ****ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS.

Here's how Walter Football has them ranked:

1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis

COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare.

People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ****ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ****ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them!

Again, let me say this slowly, so the retards and assholes can hear me:

In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up.

Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ****ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only ****ing thing we have at QB.
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:09 PM   #61
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And then 1/4 guys doesn't declare while NYJ, Jags and 49ers take the other 3 amd we're stuck with our dick in our hand.
Quarterbacks aren't going 1-2-3 in 2018. That rarely happens.

All you've sacrificed is a player we aren't in desperate need of in 2017.

What do you have to lose? Just get in position for the best QB class in years. You have nothing to lose. And everything to gain.
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:27 PM   #62
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**** that. Take someone this year and someone else next year if we have to. This next year shit needs to end now.
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:35 PM   #63
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**** that. Take someone this year and someone else next year if we have to. This next year shit needs to end now.
There's 0% chance of that happening though.

We're looking at another Geno this year if we reach.
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:59 PM   #64
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There's 0% chance of that happening though.
Speaking strictly in terms of the first round, perhaps. But in the entire draft, I don't think it's a stretch at all to say the Chiefs take a QB in '17 AND '18 for reasons I mentioned earlier.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:07 PM   #65
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Speaking strictly in terms of the first round, perhaps. But in the entire draft, I don't think it's a stretch at all to say the Chiefs take a QB in '17 AND '18 for reasons I mentioned earlier.
We're currently shitting our pants about drafting a QB in the first round, so you want to take a mediocre prospect this year and then spend a mid-round pick on another next year?

That sounds like rubbing my dick against a cheese grater to be honest, when I can potentially package picks to move up in 2018 instead.

I basically don't care, AT ALL, about a quarterback taken outside the first round at this point.

Bray, Murray, Hogan...garbage. Why even bother?
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:14 PM   #66
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:20 PM   #67
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We're currently shitting our pants about drafting a QB in the first round, so you want to take a mediocre prospect this year and then spend a mid-round pick on another next year?

That sounds like rubbing my dick against a cheese grater to be honest, when I can potentially package picks to move up in 2018 instead.

I basically don't care, AT ALL, about a quarterback taken outside the first round at this point.

Bray, Murray, Hogan...garbage. Why even bother?
Brady
Carr
Brees
Rodgers
Dak
Wilson
Dalton
Cousins
Flacco
Romo

All these guys were mediocre or worse prospects. This QB class is not 2013.
And you might as well stop now with the thought that the Chiefs we'd to draft an elite talent bc it won't happen.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:23 PM   #68
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In this case it's actually true, though.

And if we reach for a middling prospect this year, there's a very good chance we blow our shot at a real first round prospect next year.

The best play to is to trade our 2017 1st for a 2018 1st and then use that ammo to try and move up in 2018.
That "It's actually true" bullshit has been said in every single ****ing draft every single year, except the year that Luck was drafted.

Who the hell even heard of Carson Wentz prior to the '15 season?

Brian Brohm was supposed to be the next big thing prior to his final college season.

It's the same damn thing every single year.
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you might as well stop now with the thought that the Chiefs we'd to draft an elite talent bc it won't happen.
Defeatist thinking. Not participating.
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I just can't believe this place is so gung ho about borderline 1st round prospects after the Geno debacle.

Let alone a god damn Texas Tech QB.
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I just can't believe this place is so gung ho about borderline 1st round prospects after the Geno debacle.

Let alone a god damn Texas Tech QB.
Heh.
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I just can't believe this place is so gung ho about borderline 1st round prospects after the Geno debacle.

Let alone a god damn Texas Tech QB.
You never really know though. Nobody thought Prescott was in Goff and Wentz league, but he's tirned out much better so far.
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We're currently shitting our pants about drafting a QB in the first round, so you want to take a mediocre prospect this year and then spend a mid-round pick on another next year?
WTF? How did you get that from my comment? I merely stated what the Chiefs are likely to do based on Dorsey and his background as an evaluator. I also stated they weren't likely to wait until the 5th round to do so in '17 or '18 given the urgency to replace Smith. I stated nothing about what I "want" or prefer them to do.
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