Pats Cheating Comfirmed

[PizzaDoughz]

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SPchief

So we're gonna exonerate the Pats for actually doing the cheating?

I'm not exonerating anyone but I think it's the NFL's responsibility to make sure these things don't happen.

The subject isn't illegal taping or steroids or HGH. It's the actual BALL itself.

Doesn't the Plate Umpire check the ball in MLB?

[SPchief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not exonerating anyone but I think it's the NFL's responsibility to make these things don't happen.

The subject isn't illegal taping or steroids or HGH. It's the actual BALL itself.

Doesn't the Plate Umpire check the ball in MLB?

Yes, supposedly they checked the balls 2 hours before the games. THEN the Pats allegedly tampered with them. I'm sure we'll get a rule change. But that doesn't erase the fact that the Pats themselves were the ones who cheated.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SPchief

Yes, supposedly they checked the balls 2 hours before the games. THEN the Pats allegedly tampered with them. I'm sure we'll get a rule change. But that doesn't erase the fact that the Pats themselves were the ones who cheated.
Two hours? Is that the rule? If so, the NFL isn't concerned with their actual football.

I'm in no way, shape or form siding with the Patriots.

But, it must be pointed out that the NFL goes to great lengths to procure the largest TV contracts in TV history, move their game overseas, televise their Rookie Combine, Three Day Draft, games in preseason along with Sunday, Monday and Thursay night. They have a show every single morning on the NFL Network.

They bust and suspend players for marijuana (which is now legal in many states), alcohol, PED's, DUI's and wearing the "wrong" socks. They don't give a crap if a star player knocks out his wife, until it's caught on film, but they still don't care until TMZ pushes the right buttons. Ray MacDonald and Greg Hardy aren't suspended until AFTER Ray Rice's video emerges, even after Hardy threw his girlfriend on a CACHE of guns and threatend to murder her.

The NFL doesn't care about anything unless it affects their bottom line.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Now, if I can feel a .01 mm difference in a guitar or bass, how is it that an NFL Referee or Umpire, both of whom come in contact with an NFL Football countless times before and during the game, can't tell if there's a 32 oz difference in the ball?

Personally, that tells me that it's not a significant difference and therefore, isn't a big deal.

Uh... Two pounds of air PRESSURE does not equal two pounds of weight on the ball.

Cheating is cheating and should be punished.

[mdchiefsfan]

Losing to the Chiefs made them decide to start cheating

Enough was enough

[Sassy Squatch]

Did under inflation make it easier for Blount to stick the ball up their asses? I get that it's the principle of the matter, but it wouldn't have changed the outcome too much.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'll use a analogy that may make sense and may not.

I have 19 guitars and basses that I record on a regular basis. I've had them set up by a Master Luthier to be exactly as I specify: The E string can be no more than .75mm off the first fret. That's mandatory.

Now, even in a temperature controlled environment, I can pick up an instrument and immediately feel if it's different. It makes it so that I focus on the feel of the instrument instead of the piece of music I'm recording. It's distracting and before I know it, I've broken out the tools and wasted 30 minutes of my day getting it right.

Now, if I can feel a .01 mm difference in a guitar or bass, how is it that an NFL Referee or Umpire, both of whom come in contact with an NFL Football countless times before and during the game, can't tell if there's a 32 oz difference in the ball?

Personally, that tells me that it's not a significant difference and therefore, isn't a big deal.

That is just about the worst analogy I've ever seen. You can pick up an instrument and immediately feel that it's different because you're an expert on playing the instrument and you know exactly how it's supposed to feel.

Would you expect your maid to be able to pick it up and immediately feel that it's different?

If you wound up wasting 30 minutes of your day getting it right because the instrument was wrong, and the maid had picked up the instrument and handed it to you, WOULD YOU BLAME THE MAID?

[SPchief]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Did under inflation make it easier for Blount to stick the ball up their asses? I get that it's the principle of the matter, but it wouldn't have changed the outcome too much.

For the 5 billionth time, that's not the point.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by SPchief

For the 5 billionth time, that's not the point.

You don't get it. Cheating is OK as long as you smash your opponent.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

What a cluster**** end to a cluster**** season. Your move, Goodell.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Did under inflation make it easier for Blount to stick the ball up their asses? I get that it's the principle of the matter, but it wouldn't have changed the outcome too much.

When I originally heard about this, my reaction was that people should just shut the **** up about it, because it obviously was not the reason why the Patriots blew out the Colts.

But the fact that 11 out of 12 balls were apparently tampered with has caused me to change my mind. Given the Patriots' history, it's clear that (to use an NCAA term) there is a complete lack of institutionalized control. They look for every edge they can get, and they knowingly and deliberately break the rules. They need to be given a strong incentive to stop doing this. The best way to do that is to strip some draft choices from them. Make it hurt.

College teams lose scholarships when they break the rules. If they break too many rules, they are banned from postseason competition. Hell, do the same thing here. Take away some draft choices and put them on probation. Tell them that if they break other rules, they will be banned from the playoffs for a year or two. THAT would get their attention.

[Mr. Derek]

The fact that the Patriots steam-rolled doesn't matter at all. I'm surprised so many of you bring that up.
What would have happen if the Colts won? I guess in that case it doesn't matter as well since "they lost anyway"...?
By that logic, if you get caught for cheating you should only be punished if you won by 1-6 points.

In most, if not all, sports organizations around the world if you get caught cheating you forefeet the game.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Derek

In most, if not all, sports organizations around the world if you get caught cheating you forefeet the game.

If there's video evidence of someone in the Pats locker room deflating the balls, I'm good with a forfeit.

Anything short of a smoking gun, just take the draft picks.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Mr. Derek

forefeet

[Kman34]

I have a question for Ramjackson...If the NFL is rigged why would the Pats feel the need to under inflate the footballs... You can't tell me its to create controversy. I wouldn't think the Pats would want the negative press..