Proof positive that Russell Wilson is a game manager

[GoChargers]

The Seattle Seahawks advanced to the Super Bowl in one of the most improbable comebacks in playoff history. Russell Wilson completed his final five passes, including a game-winning 35-yard touchdown in overtime to Jermaine Kearse.

Before the final five minutes and overtime, however, Wilson was abysmal. He threw a career-high four interceptions and became the second player in the Super Bowl era to win a postseason game with that many picks. Through three quarters, Wilson had a 0.2 Total QBR, and although he increased that number to 13.6 with his late-game heroics, Wilson finished the game with the lowest Total QBR in a postseason win since 2006.

This is not the first time that Seattle has won despite Wilson’s inefficiency. In fact, since 2012, Wilson’s first year in the league, the Seahawks have 15 wins in which their quarterback posted a below-average Total QBR, five more than any other team in the NFL. That includes both of Seattle’s NFC Championship wins during that time.

Since Wilson entered the league, he has a 63.7 Total QBR in the regular season and playoffs, which ranks eighth among 31 qualified quarterbacks. Wilson deserves credit for his above-average QBR during that time, but does that equate to a 42-13 (.764 win percentage) career record?

Based on Wilson’s game-level QBRs in the last three seasons, he has almost 10 more wins than expected. No other player has six more wins than expected during that time.

So how have Wilson and the Seahawks been able to defy the odds? One word: defense.

In the last three seasons, the Seahawks have contributed 4.4 points per game to their net scoring margin on defense, by far the best defensive efficiency in the NFL. Only Alex Smith (2.1) and Andy Dalton (2.1) have had defenses that contributed more than two expected points per game in their starts during that time.

Seattle’s defense has a knack for playing its best when Wilson and the offense are at their worst. Since the start of 2012, Wilson has had 22 games with a QBR below 50, including 15 wins. In those games, Seattle has held its opponents to an average QBR of 34.0 and has had a per-game defensive efficiency of +7.3. In Wilson’s games with an above-average QBR, the Seahawks have allowed a 45.7 average QBR and have had a +2.4 defensive efficiency rating.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...russell-wilson

[Hootie]

lmfao

yeah

big moment for him

dinking and dunking his way down the field in a tie game to get Vinatieri a 45 yard game winning kick

go watch that drive ... he threw the ball to a RB every down ... the Rams played prevent dipshit defense

if you think that is a more impressive moment in an NFL career then what Russell did last week against Green Bay you are an insane human being

[Hootie]

shit, that Brady throw to LaFell against the Ravens two weeks ago was more clutch than anything Tom did in his Super Bowl runs

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Agree. People remember Tom Brady leading his team down the field for the game winning kick over the Rams. Big moment for him.

Yep. Another example: people remember the 2006 Colts' defense sacking up in the playoffs and putting forth a heroic effort to carry their team to a ring.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Yep. Another example: people remember the 2006 Colts' defense sacking up in the playoffs and putting forth a heroic effort to carry their team to a ring.

In 10 years people will look back to the Packers/Hawks game and say "how the hell did GB completely **** this up and lose this game with 4 mins left on an onside kick and 2 point conversion."

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Yep. Another example: people remember the 2006 Colts' defense sacking up in the playoffs and putting forth a heroic effort to carry their team to a ring.

because people are reeruned

Peyton trailed New England by 18 in the AFCCG

Peyton was the MVP of the Super Bowl.

Peyton and his offense rallied back from 10 down against the Bears.

Peyton and his offense controlled the ball for 39 minutes in a game against a team that had an elite defense and an elite running game

...yet Peyton gets shit on

why?

because people are jealous of how great he is

it's pretty simple

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

In 10 years people will look back to the Packers/Hawks game and say "how the hell did GB completely **** this up and lose this game with 4 mins left on an onside kick and 2 point conversion."

yeah, no one will ever remember that Russell TD pass in OT

Joe Montana had 3 picks before "the catch" ... and guess who didn't know that before yesterday? Me.

And guess what name I know because of that one play? Dwight Clark. And guess how many times I've seen that play? About a thousand.

So, in conclusion, you're dumb.

[BWillie]

He has a hell of a QB rating for a game manager. Too bad the Chuefs game manager doesn't have a 100 career QB rating. Must be nice.

[Hootie]

Joe Montana threw 3 picks and lost a fumble in that game ... including a pick in the end zone.

And the only thing I ever knew about was "the catch."

and that was also an NFC Championship Game!

But yeah, you're right ... in 10 years (if Seattle wins back to back Super Bowls), the only thing anyone will remember from that game is GB dropping an onside kick.

I'd like to say that's one of the dumbest posts I've ever read from you, but sadly, it doesn't crack the top 50.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

yeah, no one will ever remember that Russell TD pass in OT

Joe Montana had 3 picks before "the catch" ... and guess who didn't know that before yesterday? Me.

And guess what name I know because of that one play? Dwight Clark. And guess how many times I've seen that play? About a thousand.

So, in conclusion, you're dumb.

Guess how many picks Joe has in 4 SBs.

[Hootie]

Joe Montana

4 turnovers in the NFC Championship Game (the catch game)

Raise your hand if you knew that!!!!

Hilarious. QB double standards stem back for decades apparently.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

lmfao

yeah

big moment for him

dinking and dunking his way down the field in a tie game to get Vinatieri a 45 yard game winning kick

go watch that drive ... he threw the ball to a RB every down ... the Rams played prevent dipshit defense

if you think that is a more impressive moment in an NFL career then what Russell did last week against Green Bay you are an insane human being

Moment? Singular? Which one?

[Deberg_1990]

He's an above average QB who got lucky with the Packers ineptitude. Bravo to him for making the plays at the end when he absolutely had to......but the Packers put him in that position.

[Deberg_1990]

Who's a better QB?

A guy who throws for 3 TDs 0 INTs and 350 yards and his team wins 27-10

Or a guy who threw for 0 TDs, 3 INTs and 100 yards keeps his team close until the end and squeaks out a win.


If the guy who threw 3 INTs would have played better the entire game, he wouldnt have had to squeak out a win in the final moments.

All this to say that yes, Wilson is a good QB, but to say he's some 'magical' talent is hyperbole.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Who's a better QB?

A guy who throws for 3 TDs 0 INTs and 350 yards and his team wins 27-10

Or a guy who threw for 0 TDs, 3 INTs and 100 yards keeps his team close until the end and squeaks out a win.


They are both equal IMO, because if the guy who threw 3 INTs would have played better the entire game, he wouldnt have had to squeak out a win in the final moments.

All this to say that yes, Wilson is a good QB, but to say he's some 'magical' talent is hyperbole.

What the ****?

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by jd1020

What the ****?

I said that wrong. The guy who threw 3 INTs had to lean on his defense and rely on luck more.