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Old 11-07-2018, 01:48 PM  
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:09 PM   #166
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It's going to be Matt Whitaker for now, until a permanent replacement. The man who said Mueller has exceeded his mandate.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:09 PM   #167
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The Democrats claiming that Mueller should have no boundaries is just bizarre to me.

Yes, we want him to have the ability to investigate, but creating an unfettered prosecutor is just as dangerous to democracy as obstructing justice is and anyone who doesn't see that is blind.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:10 PM   #168
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Rosenstein is already out of the way and not in charge of Mueller anymore. He’s a nobody now.
Why would Trump remove Rosenstein, who wrote the letter recommending firing Comey, from overseeing Mueller's investigation?
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:11 PM   #169
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Add Nadler to the list of hypocritically idiotic Democrats (not that he wasn't already there)

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Old 11-07-2018, 05:13 PM   #170
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The well was poisoned from the very instant of the recusal, and said poisoning was a direct result of Session's actions, not Trump's. I'm not sure why you're missing that. This isn't even a close call.
Because I don't think the recusal mattered and I think Trump overreacted.

That's why I cite emotional maturity. If Trump felt personally betrayed because Sessions assured him that he wouldn't recuse himself (which may/may not have happened), then I can understand a moment of frustration. However, Sessions was also a guy who really helped you find some traction in the Presidential run to begin with. Be the damn adult in the room and recognize that he's helped you a great deal here and gave up his Senate seat to take this job. This one act that probably has no bearing on anything shouldn't lead to a 2 year temper tantrum where you shit on the guy publicly whenever the news cycle is boring you.

Be irritated if you want. I'd recommend trying to mend the relationship with a guy who was clearly a trusted lieutenant of yours in the recent past but even if you don't want to do that - try not to be a complete asshole to him every few months.

That's a lack of emotional maturity.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:16 PM   #171
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Why would Trump remove Rosenstein, who wrote the letter recommending firing Comey, from overseeing Mueller's investigation?
Technically he did not. He got rid of Sessions and put someone in place to handle Sessions job. Sessions old job was to oversee everything in the DOJ as long as he does not have a conflict. The new guy does not have a conflict.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:16 PM   #172
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Why would Trump remove Rosenstein, who wrote the letter recommending firing Comey, from overseeing Mueller's investigation?
The hereichy in the DOJ changed with Sessions resignation. Whitaker’s position supersedes Rosenstein appointment.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:19 PM   #173
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Technically he did not. He got rid of Sessions and put someone in place to handle Sessions job. Sessions job is to oversee everything in the DOJ as long as he does not have a conflict. The new guy does not have a conflict.
I see, thanks.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:20 PM   #174
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Everyone concedes that Trump has the ability to do it.

Some will even concede that Trump should have done it a long time ago.

I have complete confidence that if Trump is doing this for nefarious reasons we'll know soon because you'll see Rosenstein quit. If there's nothing to worry about he won't. If Rosenstein quits because of a lack of integrity on the part of the process then you'll also see scads of other DoJ attorneys bail within the next 24 hours.

Absent that this is just another chapter in the drama...
If Rosenstein doesn't resign tomorrow, he should be fired immediately. If not, keep him around in the capacity of a toilet bowl cleaner, but strip him of his clearance and make sure he's out of the loop.

Nah, just fire him and watch him filling his one box.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:22 PM   #175
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Because I don't think the recusal mattered and I think Trump overreacted.

That's why I cite emotional maturity. If Trump felt personally betrayed because Sessions assured him that he wouldn't recuse himself (which may/may not have happened), then I can understand a moment of frustration. However, Sessions was also a guy who really helped you find some traction in the Presidential run to begin with. Be the damn adult in the room and recognize that he's helped you a great deal here and gave up his Senate seat to take this job. This one act that probably has no bearing on anything shouldn't lead to a 2 year temper tantrum where you shit on the guy publicly whenever the news cycle is boring you.

Be irritated if you want. I'd recommend trying to mend the relationship with a guy who was clearly a trusted lieutenant of yours in the recent past but even if you don't want to do that - try not to be a complete asshole to him every few months.

That's a lack of emotional maturity.
Your argument is 180 degrees out of phase. You simply cannot have a member of your circle who's first move is to screw you over about something he should have seen coming months earlier, and I'm sure you know that in your heart of hearts.
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Twitter rumors are Rosenstein has or is in the process of resigning.

Other Twitter rumors indicate that LeBron James may play Jason Voorhees in a new movie...
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Your argument is 180 degrees out of phase. You simply cannot have a member of your circle who's first move is to screw you over about something he should have seen coming months earlier, and I'm sure you know that in your heart of hearts.
Do you think it likely that Sessions would have appointed a special counsel after Comey's firing if he hadn't recused himself?
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Your argument is 180 degrees out of phase. You simply cannot have a member of your circle who's first move is to screw you over about something he should have seen coming months earlier, and I'm sure you know that in your heart of hearts.
But again - we're quibbling over 'screw you over'.

I don't think he did. I don't think it had any bearing on anything. So get the **** over it, Donald.
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The Democrats claiming that Mueller should have no boundaries is just bizarre to me.

Yes, we want him to have the ability to investigate, but creating an unfettered prosecutor is just as dangerous to democracy as obstructing justice is and anyone who doesn't see that is blind.
My #1 issue with Mueller. He willingly accepted the environment he was handed, that makes him as bad as those who gave him that much rope. So he's not innocent, not at all. He could have limited his investigation to Russia, but he didn't, he became the Dem's and GOPe's anti-Trump hitman.
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