Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs

[Rain Man]

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)


Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.


Teams As Of Post #113:


Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

NFL Draft 2013:


1-13: OLB Jarvis Jones Georgia

2-34: CB Dave Amerson

2-39: QB Geno Smith WVU

3-63: TE Travis Kelcie Cincinnati

3-72: WR Stedman Bailey WVU

3-96: OC Brian Schwenkie California

4-99: OG/OT Barrett Jones Alabama

5-134: DT Jessie Williams Alabama

5-141: ILB AJ Klien Iowa State

6-178: DE Joe Kruger Utah

6-204: DE/OLB Mike Capatano Princeton

I hadn't noticed that you made your picks. It's interesting that most of the same players rose to the top of the list for both of us, especially in the 5th round. But even above that, most of the guys you picked were guys I was considering as well.

[wazu]

The Fresno Refugees accepted the Alex Smith trade very begrudgingly. I can't stand the trade for the actual real Chiefs, but the reality was that going into this draft, I could not anticipate what situation any of the rookie QBs would be drafted into on their real life teams. So the only way to have near-certainty that my team would have a QB who is actually starting in the NFL was to accept a trade for a QB who I am not excited about. That won't stop me from continuing to swing and miss at this position until our franchise QB is found.

In addition to the Alex Smith trade, we are trading our 1-1 pick to the Cardinals, along with our 4-99 and 7-207, and receiving the Cardinals' 1-7 and 2-38 picks in return.

The Fresno Refugees 2013 Draft Class:

1-7: Tavon Austin, WR (Rams)
2-38: Geno Smith, QB (Jets)
3-63: Travis Kelce, TE (Chiefs)
3-96: Tyler Wilson, QB (Raiders)
5-134: Jesse Williams, DT (Seahawks)
6-170: John Boyett, S (Colts)
6-204: Jordan Poyer, CB (Eagles)

To answer all of your questions - YES, Rainman stole most of my picks by pre-emptively reading my mind and posting before I could. Seriously, though, first four were no-brainers for me given how much I liked those two QBs. I just don't believe the negativity about this quarterback class and am insisting that I be proven wrong the hard way. Was also glad to see the Chiefs take a TE I like. Was not sure he was my favorite, but seemed like a good time to go with the flow.

Williams and Poyer at first seemed like fantastic coincidences that we both drafted, but then again those are two players who fell pretty far from where they were projected, so not surprising that they caught the attention of multiple armchair GMs who have limited visibility to the other players taken in late rounds. I did not see them on Rainman's list prior to selecting.

[Rain Man]

So three of us have independently selected Jesse Williams in the fifth round. How fascinating. I wonder what NFL teams were reluctant about relative to what we know.

The three drafters so far have an uncanny amount of overlap. Frankly, I drafted Kelce begrudgingly for need more than anything, so others see more than I do, and I was also hesitant about Geno but decided he was worth the risk. It'll be interesting to see how these guys turn out.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

So three of us have independently selected Jesse Williams in the fifth round. How fascinating. I wonder what NFL teams were reluctant about relative to what we know.

The three drafters so far have an uncanny amount of overlap. Frankly, I drafted Kelce begrudgingly for need more than anything, so others see more than I do, and I was also hesitant about Geno but decided he was worth the risk. It'll be interesting to see how these guys turn out.

I was influenced pretty heavily by Mayock's ratings on NFL.com. When scrolling through picks fifth round and farther, Williams stood out as being pretty much without peer, which led me to investigate further and figure it was a pretty good value.

I drafted Geno on general principle. I would have spent first overall. In fact even today I'd happily trade Fisher to the Jets for Geno straight-up. All of the criticism was cause for some pause, but bottom line is he was clearly the best QB in the draft, and our team desperately needs a franchise QB. Gotta roll the dice. Without a top QB everything else we do is just window dressing.

With Kelce, I wasn't a fan when I first saw the pick, but it grew on me after I learned more. I've been struggling at that spot ever since agreeing to the disastrous Tony Gonzalez trade. The fact that he is in a good situation and was drafted by the Chiefs made it an easy decision.

[patteeu]

I'll get to this soon. I swear I'm not just waiting so I can copy off of the three of you.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'll get to this soon. I swear I'm not just waiting so I can copy off of the three of you.

If you sign Jesse Williams and Geno Smith, we'll know that you're either copying or you're doing due diligence.