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Anon - NASA on the Verge of Announcing Alien Life

Hacker network Anonymous has made headlines today, this time claiming that NASA is on the verge of announcing evidence of alien life.

It's a pretty bold statement, but before you get too excited, we've checked the science, and let's be clear right up front that Anonymous doesn't appear to have any substantial new evidence to back up their speculation.

In fact, their latest video announcement centres around the Kepler Space Telescope's latest discovery of 219 new planet candidates outside our Solar System, as well as comments made by Associate Administrator of NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Thomas Zurbuchen at a US*government hearing back in April.

"Taking into account all of the different activities and missions that are specifically searching for evidence of alien life, we are on the verge of making one of the most profound, unprecedented, discoveries in history," Zurbuchen said during the recent congressional hearing of the committee on 'Advances in the Search for Life', on April 26.

He was also pretty excited about the Kepler announcement last week:




Anonymous has taken Zurbuchen's enthusiastic testimony from that hearing (which you can watch in full at the bottom of this story), alongside the latest Kepler discovery - as well as a few other statements from former astronauts and alien enthusiasts - as evidence "something is going on in the skies above".

So what's going on here? Are we really on the verge of finding evidence of alien life?
Well, no. It's safe to say Anonymous hasn't stumbled on some smoking gun of extraterrestrial existence here - sorry, guys.

While Zurbuchen's statement back at the April meeting does sound pretty tantalising when taken out of context, what he (and others in the scientific community) are actually excited about is the advances we've made in our ability to search for extraterrestrial life - not any specific piece of evidence.

For starters, there's the Kepler Space Telescope, which was launched in 2009, and scans patches of the sky, looking for the slight dimming of distant stars as evidence of exoplanets orbiting in front of them.

So far it has discovered more than 4,000 planet candidates outside our Solar System, including 30 planets similar in size*to Earth that are located in the habitable zones of their stars - that means they're not so far away that water would freeze, and not too close that everything would be burnt to a crisp.

Notably, earlier this year NASA announced the discovery of a "sister solar system" - a star system known as TRAPPIST-1 that has seven potentially Earth-like planets orbiting it, and is a relatively close 39 light-years away.
"The TRAPPIST-1 system is just 39 light years away and its discovery tells us that there is plenty of planet making material in our little corner of the solar system, indicating that finding Earth-like planets may actually be closer to us than we originally thought. Future study of this planetary system could reveal conditions suitable for life," said Zurbuchen at the hearing back in April.

Since then, other research teams have contradicted the assumption that TRAPPIST-1's planets are habitable, but the fact that a solar system so similar to our own exists at all in our own neck of the woods suggests there are many more out there and is exciting in its own right.

And even better tools are about to come online to aid in the search for aliens.
Next year, NASA will launch the James Webb Space Telescope -an even more sensitive planet hunter - which will be an even more sensitive planet hunter, that will be able to detect the chemical fingerprints of water, methane, oxygen, ozone in an exoplanet's atmosphere - something that will help us sniff out signs of habitability if they're there.

In addition to looking for signs of life on planets outside of our own Solar System, NASA has also made significant advances when it comes to our own neighbouring planets - including the discovery of essential life building block hydrogen in the frozen oceans of Saturn's moon Enceladus, and evidence that Jupiter's watery moon Europa has oceans with very similar chemical composition to our own.*

So Anonymous is right in one way - NASA is closer than ever to having the tools to find evidence of alien life... but unfortunately that doesn't mean that evidence already exists, or even that we'll find it in our lifetime.*

But if it makes you feel any better, physicist Stephen Hawking is now "more convinced than ever that we are not alone". Although Neil deGrasse Tyson recently said in a Reddit AMA that he doesn't think we'll find alien life in the next 50 years.

http://www.sciencealert.com/anonymou...-of-alien-life
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:25 AM   #31
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I kind of hate that "Anonymous says (or does) XXXX" is a thing. Anonymous is a loosely-affiliated set of a bunch of "anonymous" hackers, so that phrase is basically the equivalent of "A random hacker says (or does) XXXX."

I'd be thrilled if there was evidence of this, and you never know, but adding "Anonymous" to it doesn't make it credible in any way.
Their usefulness extends as far as encouraging people to do more research into a given topic based on the possibility they may have introduced some hacked/hidden info the public didn't know about before.

That's it...
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:26 AM   #32
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"We're rare, we're first or we're ****ed..."
Pretty much.

"What if our God/s are just tourists pissing on the side of the road?"
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:30 AM   #34
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I love this article

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

The basic thesis is a hell of a hook - "We're rare, we're first or we're ****ed..."
Pretty much. The Easter Islanders cut down all their trees to build more Moai (those big face statues) - leaving them ****ed.

If people on a small island can't band together to figure out they need to conserve a valuable resource - how are a bunch of different societies on earth going to do it?
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:31 AM   #35
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Posited by the History/Hitler/Aliens channel...
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:32 AM   #36
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Pretty much.

"What if our God/s are just tourists pissing on the side of the road?"
The one that made me really say "huh...now that makes a lot of sense in a horrifying sort of way" was:

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Possibility 5) There’s only one instance of higher-intelligent life—a “superpredator” civilization (like humans are here on Earth)—that is far more advanced than everyone else and keeps it that way by exterminating any intelligent civilization once they get past a certain level. This would suck. The way it might work is that it’s an inefficient use of resources to exterminate all emerging intelligences, maybe because most die out on their own. But past a certain point, the super beings make their move—because to them, an emerging intelligent species becomes like a virus as it starts to grow and spread. This theory suggests that whoever was the first in the galaxy to reach intelligence won, and now no one else has a chance. This would explain the lack of activity out there because it would keep the number of super-intelligent civilizations to just one.
And look at that on a planetary scale; it checks out. We think primates are fun because they look like us and can't use guns yet. But the absolutely millisecond that gorillas presented a true existential threat to humanity, we'd wipe those !@#$ers off the planet. And why? Because we were first, we're at the top of the heap and we're disinclined to lose that status. Since they're no real threat to us, we're all good. But the moment they demonstrate human-level reasoning, we'll get 'em gone before they put an army together.

You think we'll ever reach a point where other creatures on this planet are capable of speaking to us in our native tongues? Oh hell no - we'll wipe them out well before they advance to that stage because we're not going to let them get anywhere near our perch.
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I love this article

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

The basic thesis is a hell of a hook - "We're rare, we're first or we're ****ed..."
Yeah I've read that before. Still crazy to me and. It sure what I believe.

I tend to think there's a shitload abundance of superior advanced shut out there
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You think we'll ever reach a point where other creatures on this planet are capable of speaking to us in our native tongues? Oh hell no - we'll wipe them out well before they advance to that stage because we're not going to let them get anywhere near our perch.
The most effective ruling philosophy was already determined almost a century ago.

What if you apply "1984" to a galactic scale?

What if most of all that is exists as a natural preserve and the few than can reason are just conditioned to love big(er) brother?

This could include religion as we know it and motivate a global culture to a predetermined end.

It's an interesting thought experiment...
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There's a good chance we won't last long enough to find a way to leave the solar system. We need to advance to a point where we can make something like the Alcubierre drive actually work.
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This topic is truly one of religious fervor.

There is no middle ground.

Grandma Pawtucket's cow WAS abducted by the aliens and they carved ole' Bessy up.

Dr. Knowledge says there's no life anywhere else in the universe. It is sterile.

If you entertain the idea you get lumped in with Grammy Pawtucket.

If you are skeptical (meaning requiring more evidence and reluctant to jump to a conclusion) you get lumped in with Dr. Knowledge.
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I think they've been here and or are here. If they're that advanced, they could do it without our knowledge
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This topic is truly one of religious fervor.

There is no middle ground.

Grandma Pawtucket's cow WAS abducted by the aliens and they carved ole' Bessy up.

Dr. Knowledge says there's no life anywhere else in the universe. It is sterile.

If you entertain the idea you get lumped in with Grammy Pawtucket.

If you are skeptical (meaning requiring more evidence and reluctant to jump to a conclusion) you get lumped in with Dr. Knowledge.
I am firmly in the "the human mind simply cannot grasp just how unbelievably large the scale we're operating on here is" camp. And then throw in the whole 3 dimensional thing (which the human mind has a notoriously hard time conceptualizing) and you start to understand that even if we're looking for the right things and with the right tools, the odds of us looking at the right place and at the right time are almost infinitesimally small.

When people say "Man, how hard could it actually be to find Planet 9?" and then you listen to someone smart explain EXACTLY how hard it can be and why there's a really good chance that we just never find the thing even though we can see its wake, you get just an inkling of an understanding of the void we're dealing with.

These scales are just so far beyond our comprehension that it makes me think that A) it's virtually impossible that life doesn't exist SOMEWHERE but B) it's nearly as unlikely that we'll find it or it us over any appreciable timeline.
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