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Old 11-18-2014, 02:06 PM  
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Trading Eric Berry

I think it might be time to evaluate what we could net in a trade for Eric Berry.

The Chiefs will probably be happy to part with Berry and his likely $9m/year contract demands if they can replace him with someone cheaper who does his job just as well in Ron Parker.

If we were to trade Eric Berry for a draft pick, what do you think he would net? I believe he could net a 2nd rounder + another pick.

If we were to trade Berry for a player, what do you think he would net?

I think he could net us a very productive, Pro Bowl caliber WR that a team is looking to move away from.

The obvious candidates, to my mind, are Pierre Garcon, Marques Colston, and of course Vincent Jackson.

Keep in mind that Eric Berry is 25.

Garcon is 28 years old, and look at these stats over the past year and a half: 156 receptions for over 1,800 yards. He's the kind of smart route-runner that Alex Smith loves throwing to. The Redskins might not be interested in paying him after having to pay DeSean Jackson (just a guess).

Colston is 31, so I like that idea less... Over the past year and a half, he's had 109 receptions the past year and a half for over 1,300 yards.

Vincent Jackson is 31 and the most expensive of the bunch, but he's had 120 receptions over the past year and a half for nearly 1,800 yards.

I don't like the return on any of those guys, I'd rather keep Berry. Are there better ones you can think of?
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Old 11-18-2014, 02:08 PM   #2
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Justin Blackmon is 24. In the four-game stretch in 2013 that he was allowed to play, he put up 413 yards.

Maybe under Gus Bradley, they'll want to part ways. Would you trade Berry for that?
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Old 11-18-2014, 02:09 PM   #3
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Eric Decker is 27. Maybe the new front office in 2015 will want to have their own guys?

He's had terrible stats this year with awful QBs, with about 450 yards through nine games.
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Old 11-18-2014, 02:12 PM   #4
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Player for player trades are extremely rare so it would be for a pick.

2 and a 4th would probably do it.

Player wise, Blackmon or Gordon.

I'd prefer they sign him to a long term deal and lower the number though
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Old 11-18-2014, 02:14 PM   #5
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I really, really wish Dane didn't get this shit started...

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Player for player trades are extremely rare so it would be for a pick.

2 and a 4th would probably do it.

Player wise, Blackmon or Gordon.

I'd prefer they sign him to a long term deal and lower the number though
Two headcases that can't get out of their own way.

Blackmon shouldn't even be in the conversation.
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I really, really wish Dane didn't get this shit started...

I think Ron Parker is the one who got it started.

If it were up to me, we'd keep Berry. But the new regime has no loyalty to him, and if they're committed to dropping seven guys every pass play, one could argue that the return on the investment simply isn't there.

I wouldn't. But I do like to toy with contingencies.
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I've got an idea!

If Parker and Abdullah are so great that they make an All-Pro expendable, why not trade them?

Unless of course you don't think anyone would trade for them.....then maybe they aren't so great afterall?
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Player for player trades are extremely rare so it would be for a pick.

2 and a 4th would probably do it.

Player wise, Blackmon or Gordon.

I'd prefer they sign him to a long term deal and lower the number though
Here's a question -- do you do it for a 2nd and a 4th in 2016?

We don't really need draft picks in 2015.
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I've got an idea!

If Parker and Abdullah are so great that they make an All-Pro expendable, why not trade them?

Unless of course you don't think anyone would trade for them.....then maybe they aren't so great afterall?
what is this i don't even
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I think Ron Parker is the one who got it started.

If it were up to me, we'd keep Berry. But the new regime has no loyalty to him, and if they're committed to dropping seven guys every pass play, one could argue that the return on the investment simply isn't there.

I wouldn't. But I do like to toy with contingencies.
Ron Parker is a role player.

Good for him. One solid year as a role players doesn't make an All-Pro expendable.

Championship teams are teams that are mixed with star players and role players.

You need both to succeed.

This forum has this uncanny infatuation with glamorizing role players.

Just stop already. It's ridiculous.
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what is this i don't even
Apparently Ron Parker makes Berry expendable right?

That must mean that Ron Parker is every bit as good as Berry right?

If so, shouldn't be hard to find a trade partner for Parker, and it should bring in just as much value, right?
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Ron Parker is a role player.

Good for him. One solid year as a role players doesn't make an All-Pro expendable.

Championship teams are teams that are mixed with star players and role players.

You need both to succeed.

This forum has this uncanny infatuation with glamorizing role players.

Just stop already. It's ridiculous.
u mad bro?

The results are more important than the axioms.

If the Chiefs can score the #1 pass defense in the league without Eric Berry, than Berry by definition becomes expendable.
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Apparently Ron Parker makes Berry expendable right?

That must mean that Ron Parker is every bit as good as Berry right?
No.
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I think Ron Parker is the one who got it started.

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And no.

This wasn't a subject until Dane made it a subject.

And yes, i do give Dane and other certain posters that much weight, because their opinions sway the opinions of other simpletons on this forum. That's very easy to see.
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