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Game of Thrones Seasons 7-8
About to hit the 5000 post mark on the old thread, the first season 7 trailer today seems like the right time to start the final Game of Thones thread.
I'm going back to the original rules pre-2015. I don't think we need supervision or bannings. Just don't be a dick. Post anything you find online that hasn't aired yet inside of spoiler tags. That's pretty much it. I think we can all handle that... For future us, 2015 thread is here: Link Last edited by keg in kc; 06-21-2017 at 10:48 AM.. |
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I don't want them to redo the turd, but will never rewatch the last season.
The damage is done, they botched the ending of what should have been the greatest show in television history.
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They seriously thought Bran being the ticket was the best option. That's near criminal negligence levels of failure. Can we sue for emotional distress over a TV show??
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That was Martin’s ended. According to him.
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GRRM also defended the Bran decision and has commented the most about that showending more than any other. I think that ending is definitely his own, too (in the books I'm sure he'll dwell more on how humans are inherently conquerers and conquerers can't rule). I think Arya and Tyrion will more or less end up in the same place since those are his wife and his favorite characters. Sansa maaay end up leading Winterfell but will do so through actual intelligence and cunning rather than a gas leak in Winterfell causing LF, the lords of the North, and Jon's IQ to drop 50 points to allow her to rule it. Would not be surprised at all to see different endings for Jaime, Cersei, Brienne, Littlefinger, Varys, the Tyrells, Martells, etc. But the main beats seem to be pretty darn in line with what he has planned. "Planned" is the key word. Him signing that lucrative new deal with HBO feels like confirmation that he has no plans to finish the series. He also admitted he's "hundreds" of pages away from finishing WOW a few months back. Like others have said, I put the most blame on GRRM rather than D&D. The dude just bailed on providing a satisfying ending to his series in any medium. I think we're due for a battle with the WW at the Trident (from Dany and Arya's dreams), but it will be way different. Martin was most critical of the Night King (all the way back in Season 5) than any other decision of the show (he was also outwardly critical of how they used Bronn after Season 4). But he had always, always been critical of the NK. Would not at all be surprised if the WW have a different ending entirely in the books. Last edited by Chiefspants; 04-18-2021 at 10:06 AM.. |
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Yeah, he mentioned that several times in interviews. Bran ending up on the Throne and Dany being killed was their end fates.
I didnt follow it so close after the series ended because I was so pissed off but did GRMM ever say anything about the other characters endings? Was the end result what he wanted? Outlined to D&D?
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I believe that was Martin's plan the whole time.
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Jon was banished basically to placate the dothraki and the unsullied. After they left, what would be the point in giving a shit what they thought? It's not like they would have come back. At the very least he should have stayed at Winterfell. Sansa was such a nasty, jaded bitch by the end of it that she could have ended up as bad as Cersei. It was just stupid. It was stupid for Tyrion to suggest it. Hell, pretty much everything Tyrion did in Season 8 was stupid. Did somebody drop him on his head between Seasons 7 and 8? He was like a drunken Yoda for seven seasons and then turned into Wile E. Coyote. So basically, at the end of the show, Jon is a quitter, Arya is a quitter, Tyrion is a moron, Sansa is a bitch, everybody on the high council is in over their heads, and the rest are dead. Yay. |
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Seems apt for 2021.
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I think one of the biggest problems was we didn’t get to see Dany as an antagonist or on that path for long enough to really experience her transformation and to really find ourselves sad and angry about what was happening to her. It was a gigantic element to her story but it was just glossed over too much. I realize there were hints here and there but it was something far too important to the endings of numerous characters and impactful to the resolution of basically every major conflict to not be given long term devotion and attention.
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