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It's a continuation of 4 years of the same thing that ended the same way 3 times. I'm not talking about Cassel, Palko or Thigpen, I'm talking about Alex Smith and the fact that you can essentially make the same argument for every one of his playoff losses. There are precious few common themes here and he's the one that provides the greatest combination of possible and impactful change. I gave him far more credit than most. I gave him far more rope than most. The bottom line is that he's used it up and I don't see that as being unfair. At some point the check comes due and for me that check comes when he loses 3 straight 1-score playoff games and misses opportunities for big plays in all of them. That's just too much and at 33 yrs old with no upside left, there's simply no reason for me not to explore alternatives.
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That's different than shrugging and saying 'anything at all is preferable.' |
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01-26-2017, 02:38 PM | #154 | |
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The Chiefs get desperate with win now with an older quarterback and the older players we drafted last decade don't play up to their caliber so the deficiencies will always continue with this retread quarterback route.
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01-26-2017, 02:40 PM | #155 | |
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Sigh. Like I said, I have no anger toward Smith and the Chiefs any more, just resignation. |
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01-26-2017, 02:41 PM | #156 | ||
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Wanting this, and being okay/content with Smith as the 2017 starter are two different things. I prefer both these things.
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01-26-2017, 02:42 PM | #157 | |
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Not because I'm certain that the ceiling is higher, but rather that I think the floor is fine. If it's Smith, I remain convinced that a 1st round bye is a possibility but a divisional round loss is all but assured. With Foles, that first round bye may not be coming but if the shit hits the fan with Foles, the top 10 pick in a loaded QB draft is on its way and that kid gets to come into a team that's still young and deep. It's an ideal launching pad for a young quarterback. And there's a chance, though diminished, that Foles could take this team to the same/similar performance as Smith. In fact, there's a chance his style can do more given the emergence of key playmakers. I haven't said 'anything at all' is preferable, but I think there are many preferable options and probably the worst of those preferable options is sitting on our roster and under contract for 2017, so with that in hand, there's no reason for me to retain Alex Smith for next season.
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01-26-2017, 02:45 PM | #158 |
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Alex Smith is the killer of two things: kittens and dreams
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Anyway, why not just hope that Andy and Alex learn from this, and Alex is forced now to become more aggressive? You think if Andy sees what you saw.. and says to Smith this offseason, "lookit, bro.. I love you and you are being a good soldier, but WE BOTH must take the shots.. or YOU will be out on your ass." ( or if Smith takes his own initiative ) how would you feel then?
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"I don't know how to say it any more clearly... Matt's the starter."
Just draft the guy. I don't care what happens with Alex Smith this year. I'm patient. If we have a plan for the dude like the Packers with Aaron Rodgers, I'm good with that. But we have to think beyond him. But we have to start. And I don't think saying, "Next year's QB class is sooo much stronger, let's wait a year" is an option. You can't predict that. A QB class is strong only until it's not. And when it's not, you're screwed. If Mahomes is good enough to develop given time on the bench, then take him. |
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It's Andy Reid pass pass pass attempts. Even when they run a run play it's a GOD DAM MOTHER ****ING DRAW. So Alex is passing it 35-45+ times a game and he just isn't a gun slinging quarterback. He needs a run game so he can play action like he did with Gore and Vernon Davis that's how he got his success in San Francisco. Alex is worn out because of Andy Reid pass attempts a game. Yet only 15 touchdowns for the season go figure ?
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01-26-2017, 02:58 PM | #162 |
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"We were going to take you if we didn't already have Alex".
Andy telling that to Carr at the pro bowl should signify one shining beam of hope: Dorsey is scouting QB's hard just like every position we've seen him look to upgrade since he was hired. Dorsey is scouting these guys every year and Andy isn't wanting to take them unless they are mid round projects. This is 100% on Andy
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And after '17 ends in the same way '16 does, we'll be one season closer to FA for some key players, one season further into the primes of others. That conversation would be akin to me begging my dogs to learn math. "Seriously Patton, if you don't realize that 2*2 equals 4, they're going to kill us both...." Seems like it would be better to just ask my kid. The dog ain't gonna get it done but give me some time with the 3 year old and I might just get lucky.
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KC was ranked 17th on OL run blocking this season.. Last season, they were ranked 5th.. the year before 7th.. the year before 2nd. Think about that for a minute (no condescension intended). The problem is either ANDY REID or ANDY REID... or the OL.. and let me explain. Either the OL just sucked at run blocking.... or Andy's sideways BS playcalling, and lack of deep shot testicles is putting defenses on notice to move up closer and key the run. (seems unfathomable with guys like Hill and Kelce, right?) or Alex's testes are so minuscule, that he simply will not take the time or effort in backing off the D with aggression. So which is it? because I'll tell you... even if... EVEN IF... it is 100% Alex Smith? then the problem... is ANDY REID. He is the HC and OC. He is in charge of his QB. If Smith is not doing what his HC and OC want... and is still on the field.. then it's still ON ANDY REID. Agree or disagree?
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The KC Media needs to start punching Andy Reid in the mouth about Alex Smith. Prove to us why he believes Alex deserves another shot. I don't see a single reason to give it to him. What is it that makes Andy ****ing Reid believe it? Is it the countless plays per game that Alex leaves on the field that makes him believe? Turn up the ****ing heat on this.
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