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**Pawnmower** · 07-30-2013, 08:17 PM

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Brock · 08-02-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/racism.html

Thanks for pointing out racism exists. Nobody told me. It does not change the fact that black men can join any masonic lodge that will admit them by unanimous ballot, the same as anyone else.

BigChiefTablet · 08-02-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Thanks for pointing out racism exists. Nobody told me. It does not change the fact that black men can join any masonic lodge that will admit them by unanimous ballot, the same as anyone else.

I said some lodges will admit blacks, not all. You said I was wrong. There are plenty of lodges that will not admit blacks. And quite a few states that don't even recognize Prince Hall Lodges, or allow them to even visit their lodges.

So sure, the National Grand Lodge may have some rule on the books that says they just need a unanimous vote, but there are plenty of Lodges that don't allow blacks, just the same.

Brock · 08-02-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I said some lodges will admit blacks, not all. You said I was wrong. There are plenty of lodges that will not admit blacks. And quite a few states that don't even recognize Prince Hall Lodges, or allow them to even visit their lodges.

So sure, the National Grand Lodge may have some rule on the books that says they just need a unanimous vote, but there are plenty of Lodges that don't allow blacks, just the same.

Having one or several racists in your lodge that blackball black prospects does not mean your lodge has a policy against blacks. Are you really going to pretend this is a widespread problem, rather than a southern thing?

BigChiefTablet · 08-02-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Having one or several racists in your lodge that blackball black prospects does not mean your lodge has a policy against blacks. Are you really going to pretend this is a widespread problem, rather than a southern thing?

I'm not pretending anything. I don't know exactly how widespread the problem is, I just know that it's a problem. And it's not just a couple of old bigots holding everyone else back.

You said blacks can join regular Masonic Lodges, I said, "some, not all." Is that not accurate?

**Dave Lane** · 08-02-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Dave is a hypocrite...I have an issue with a guy who constantly preaches and tries to convert others to what basically amounts to a religious belief system while at the same time mocking and insulting other people's religious belief systems.

It makes no sense , I have called him out using his own quotes and there is no reply.

The funny thing is that I too am an (amateur!) astronomer and astrophotographer, and he gives scientists a bad name in my opinion.

Preach on brother.

Oh wait that was you to Big Chief...

Brock · 08-02-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I'm not pretending anything. I don't know exactly how widespread the problem is, I just know that it's a problem. And it's not just a couple of old bigots holding everyone else back.

You said blacks can join regular Masonic Lodges, I said, "some, not all." Is that not accurate?

More like almost any. It is just a few old bigots holding everybody else. You know not of what you speak.

vailpass · 08-02-2013, 05:23 PM

All 6 of my uncles are (were) Masons. I grew up serving pancakes at the hall, just as I grew up serving at the VFW. There are no racial barriers, membership is encouraged though hard to come by.

Comrade Crapski · 08-03-2013, 10:12 AM

Anybody else ever read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History.../dp/1590201620

I found it to be fascinating.

One of the main points I got from the book is that mankind had a much deeper, more profound relationship with God 3,000-4,000 years ago, because he was that much closer to the source of origin, time of creation.

Whereas today we are further removed from that point of creation, so we have little or no relationship left with God.

Of course, the Moonbat's theory is that as civilization progressed and man became more scientific, he dismissed the ancients views as primitive and childish, and defined his religion as "myth".

But I think it's the other way around. I think the ancients had it down and we lost it somewhere along the way.

KILLER_CLOWN · 08-04-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Comrade Crapski

Anybody else ever read this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History.../dp/1590201620

I found it to be fascinating.

One of the main points I got from the book is that mankind had a much deeper, more profound relationship with God 3,000-4,000 years ago, because he was that much closer to the source of origin, time of creation.

Whereas today we are further removed from that point of creation, so we have little or no relationship left with God.

Of course, the Moonbat's theory is that as civilization progressed and man became more scientific, he dismissed the ancients views as primitive and childish, and defined his religion as "myth".

But I think it's the other way around. I think the ancients had it down and we lost it somewhere along the way.

Thanks I'll check it out, I believe it to be spot on.

tiptap · 08-05-2013, 07:57 AM

These last two posts are truly representative of the hugely divergent understanding of where knowledge can be found. On one hand we have those who believe the past holds truth (and we can know it by words alone) and the other that knowledge has been added and we grow more in our understanding; in a word progress. Did the knowledge of the past put us on the moon? Did knowledge of the past split the atom? Compared to 10,000 years of the past knowing best, no. In the span of 300 years the Scientific Revolution yes. These events, moon walking and atom splitting, represent only a few of the "new things under the sun."

KILLER_CLOWN · 08-05-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tiptap

These last two posts are truly representative of the hugely divergent understanding of where knowledge can be found. On one hand we have those who believe the past holds truth (and we can know it by words alone) and the other that knowledge has been added and we grow more in our understanding; in a word progress. Did the knowledge of the past put us on the moon? Did knowledge of the past split the atom? Compared to 10,000 years of the past knowing best, no. In the span of 300 years the Scientific Revolution yes. These events, moon walking and atom splitting, represent only a few of the "new things under the sun."

Yes.

tiptap · 08-05-2013, 01:43 PM

Would you square this for all of us.

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Comrade Crapski Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sea of Green 23.4° Casino cash: $5000	Anybody else ever read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History.../dp/1590201620 I found it to be fascinating. One of the main points I got from the book is that mankind had a much deeper, more profound relationship with God 3,000-4,000 years ago, because he was that much closer to the source of origin, time of creation. Whereas today we are further removed from that point of creation, so we have little or no relationship left with God. Of course, the Moonbat's theory is that as civilization progressed and man became more scientific, he dismissed the ancients views as primitive and childish, and defined his religion as "myth". But I think it's the other way around. I think the ancients had it down and we lost it somewhere along the way.
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08-05-2013, 07:57 AM	#55
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $7947	These last two posts are truly representative of the hugely divergent understanding of where knowledge can be found. On one hand we have those who believe the past holds truth (and we can know it by words alone) and the other that knowledge has been added and we grow more in our understanding; in a word progress. Did the knowledge of the past put us on the moon? Did knowledge of the past split the atom? Compared to 10,000 years of the past knowing best, no. In the span of 300 years the Scientific Revolution yes. These events, moon walking and atom splitting, represent only a few of the "new things under the sun." __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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08-05-2013, 01:43 PM	#57
tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $7947	Would you square this for all of us. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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