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Old 05-30-2013, 04:35 PM  
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Reports: Ricin-laced letters threaten gun violence

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ricin/2372183/

WASHINGTON — President Obama was sent a threatening letter similar to the ricin-tainted letters mailed to New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Bloomberg's Washington-based gun-control group, the Secret Service said Thursday.

The Secret Service "can confirm that the White House mail screening facility intercepted a letter addressed to the White House ... similar to letters previously addressed to Mayor Bloomberg in New York. This letter has been turned over to the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force for testing and investigation," the agency said in a statement.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest said all presidential mail is examined at the offsite facility.

"We have precautions that are in place for these kinds of things," Earnest said.

The letter to Obama was discovered Wednesday. Federal officials close to the investigation said there had been a heightened sense of alert because of the Bloomberg letters. They said the Obama letter appeared to have the same postmark and handwriting as the ones sent to Bloomberg and Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

The Obama letter was not opened before it was shipped out for testing, the officials said.

The other letters, postmarked May 20 in Shreveport, La., were opened in New York on Friday at the city's mail facility in Manhattan and in Washington on Sunday at an office of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

CNN, citing a source with knowledge of the letters to Bloomberg and his gun-control group, said those letters include this:

"You will have to kill me and my family before you get my guns. Anyone wants to come to my house will get shot in the face. The right to bear arms is my constitutional God-given right and I will exercise that right till the day I die."

The letters "obviously referred to our anti-gun efforts, but there's 12,000 people that are going to get killed this year with guns and 19,000 that are going to commit suicide with guns, and we're not going to walk away from those efforts," Bloomberg said.

Bloomberg said he didn't "feel threatened."

New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne would not confirm the language in the letters, but said the "subject matter was gun owner rights and they contained the same threatening language."

The letters addressed to Bloomberg and Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, both tested positive for ricin, New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said. More testing was scheduled.

Three New York officers involved in the case experienced mild diarrhea Saturday, a minor symptom of ricin exposure, Browne said. In Washington, Glaze showed no symptoms after opening that letter, the group said.

Bloomberg ranks among the nation's most outspoken gun-control advocates. Mayors Against Illegal Guns was co-founded in 2006 by Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino, who serve as its co-chairs. It claims a membership of more than 850 mayors in 44 states.

Shreveport (La.) Mayor Cedric Glover said Shreveport police are working with the FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force to determine who sent the letters and where the ricin came from.

"We are also taking the necessary steps to protect United States Postal Service ... as well as any of our citizens from any potential harm,'' Glover said.

Ricin naturally occurs in castor beans and can be fatal if inhaled or ingested. Ricin-tainted threats have been sent recently to Obama, lawmakers and judges.

Last week, a Washington state man was accused of including ricin in a death threat mailed to a federal judge. Matthew Buquet, 38, of Spokane, was being held without bond.

In late April, a Mississippi man was arrested on charges of mailing poisoned letters to Obama, Republican Sen. Roger Wicker and an 80-year-old judge in Tupelo, Miss. The FBI said Everett Dutschke, 41, bought castor bean seeds online late last year. Agents found traces of ricin on several objects retrieved from trash at his Tupelo home and near his martial-arts studio.

Contributing: Michael Winter; Kristi Johnston, shreveporttimes.com; Associated Press
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:30 AM   #16
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You're a stone-cold nut.
So you've conceded since you're the one who has nothing. You're showing how ignorant you really are. For one, all you have to do is read Declaration of Human Rights, which is part of the Charter of the UN, to see that it does not get its idea of rights from a higher source than govt, but that "it" or the UN is the the giver of rights. Then look at HR #3 which makes being "secure" a right. LOL! The last half are the points for global socialism. Those guys hate weapons because it's been under such regimes that kill the most people.

The Treaty starts out with this:
The States Parties to this Treaty,
Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations,


Then look at
Article 5: General Implementation
2. Each State Party shall establish and maintain a national control system,
including a national control list, in order to implement the provisions of this Treaty.

3. Each State Party is encouraged to apply the provisions of this Treaty to the
broadest range of conventional arms.

4. Each State Party, pursuant to its national laws, shall provide its national
control list to the Secretariat, which shall make it available to other States Parties.
States Parties are encouraged to make their control lists publicly available.
This list will not only go to our govt, which is unConstitutional, but to foreign regimes as well. The broadest range of conventional arms fall under it. Article 2: Scope (h)" Small arms and light weapons."

Article 4 is pretty nasty too as it makes "parts and components” of weapons part of it. Article 1 under Purpose is to "reduce human suffering."

Then it tells govts to “appropriate measures” to enforce the terms of the treaty with Article 16 providing for UN assistance including enforcement of “stockpile management, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration programmes.”

It is not just about exporting of weapons either.

You can get a pdf off the UN website. I don't know how to link a pdf.

Those in Congress speaking out are right to recognize this as confiscation.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:38 AM   #17
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My guess is that cosmos still won't make the connection or see what is there.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:49 AM   #18
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:55 AM   #19
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So you've conceded since you the one who has nothing. You're showing how ignorant you really are. For one, all you have to do is read Declaration of Human Rights which is part of the Charter of the UN, to see that it does not get its idea of rights from a higher source than govt but that it is the the giver of rights. Then look at HR 3# on being "secure" being a right. LOL! The last half is global socialism being espoused. Those guys hate weapons because it's been under such regimes that kill the most people.

The Treaty starts out with this:
The States Parties to this Treaty,
Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations,


Then look at
Article 5: General Implementation
2. Each State Party shall establish and maintain a national control system,
including a national control list, in order to implement the provisions of this Treaty.

3. Each State Party is encouraged to apply the provisions of this Treaty to the
broadest range of conventional arms.

4. Each State Party, pursuant to its national laws, shall provide its national
control list to the Secretariat, which shall make it available to other States Parties.
States Parties are encouraged to make their control lists publicly available.
This list will not only go to our govt, which is unConstitutional, but to foreign regimes as well. The broadest range of conventional arms fall under it. Article 2: Scope (h)" Small arms and light weapons."

Article 4 is pretty nasty too as it makes "parts and components” of weapons part of it. Article 1 under Purpose is to "reduce human suffering."

Then it tells govts to “appropriate measures” to enforce the terms of the treaty with Article 16 providing for UN assistance including enforcement of “stockpile management, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration programmes.”

It is not just about exporting of weapons either.

You can get a pdf off the UN website. I don't know how to link a pdf.

Those in Congress speaking out are right to recognize this as confiscation.
This is meaningless out of context. I know you nuts eat this stuff up, but picking out phrases that mean nothing without context doesn't serve to improve anyone's knowledge--it does just the opposite and perpetuates the lunacy that too many people on here treat as reality.
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:14 AM   #20
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My guess is that cosmos still won't make the connection or see what is there.
You want to be against the treaty, fine. But it should be based on reasons that actually exist.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp
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Old 05-31-2013, 05:53 AM   #21
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You need to read more about covert activities.
If I were to read about them, they would no longer be covert, right? What am I missing?
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If I were to read about them, they would no longer be covert, right? What am I missing?
They're not covert anymore after the act has passed and it became known. There's enough congressional hearings on such things. There's enough books written by former CIA or even whistleblowers. People do make them known because they do get exposed. It's just such things ruin your comfy little world that our govt never does anything wrong or that evil people can use it to do wrong.


Here's just a few:

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Or, it's much more likely that it's just some nutbag who is sending ricin-laced letters to public officials.

We'll re-visit this when they catch this dork and I'll graciously except your acknowledgement of failure.
Well, gee, looks it was just another crazy bitch...

Texas actress first accuses husband, but she's arrested in ricin case

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/07/justic...html?hpt=hp_c3

(CNN) -- A Texas actress in a troubled marriage was arrested and charged Friday in connection with ricin-tainted letters that were mailed last month to President Barack Obama and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, authorities said.

Shannon Richardson, 35, also known as Shannon Rogers and Shannon Guess, initially told the FBI that her husband, Nathaniel, sent the ricin-laced letters, but a polygraph exam found her to be "deceptive" on the matter, court papers said.

Investigators found that her computer storage devices contained the text of threatening letters sent to the president, but the couple's computer records show her husband couldn't have printed them out because he was at work at the time, an FBI arrest affidavit said.

On Thursday, Shannon Richardson told investigators she mailed the ricin-tainted letters, but she claimed that her husband typed the letters and forced her to print and mail them, the affidavit said.

Her husband denied involvement and claimed his wife wanted to end their marriage and leave him, the affidavit said. He told investigators that his wife was "intentionally misleading" them, the court papers said.
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not gonna happen -- reserved for those officials that do not play ball with the plutocratic corporatists.
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They're not covert anymore after the act has passed and it became known. There's enough congressional hearings on such things. There's enough books written by former CIA or even whistleblowers. People do make them known because they do get exposed. It's just such things ruin your comfy little world that our govt never does anything wrong or that evil people can use it to do wrong.


Here's just a few:

Project MK Ultra
Operation Mockingbird
Well aware of both of those.

Now, I suppose you think this crazy actress who sent the letters is agent provocateur trying to make gun rights folks look bad, in order to take guns away?
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Woman indicted in mailing of ricin-laced letters to Obama, Bloomberg

So much for the agent provocateur theory. But, here's hoping that certain sheep will wake up to reality.
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