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Old 03-25-2013, 05:23 PM  
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DHS To Buy 360,000 More Rounds of Hollow Point Ammunition

Arms build-up continues as Congress demands answers

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
March 25, 2013

While the Department of Homeland Security continues to ignore members of Congress demanding to know why the federal agency is engaged in an apparent arms build-up, the DHS has just announced it plans to purchase another 360,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition to add to the roughly 2 billion bullets already bought over the past year.

A solicitation on the Federal Business Opportunities website details the DHS’ plan to purchase 360,000 rounds of “Commercial leaded training ammo (CLTA) Pistol .40 caliber 165 grain, jacketed hollow point.” The bullets are to be delivered to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico, the same destination for 240,000 hollow point rounds which were purchased only last month.

Although the DHS has attempted to explain its mammoth purchase of ammunition by claiming the bullets are being acquired in bulk to save money and that they are for training purposes only, this has been disputed by reputable voices such as former Marine Richard Mason, who told reporters with WHPTV News in Pennsylvania earlier this month, “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t even see hollow points my entire four and a half years in the Marine Corps.”

Hollow point bullets are almost twice as expensive as full metal jackets, therefore the DHS’ explanation that it is buying huge quantities in bulk to “save money” doesn’t make sense.

As we reported yesterday, concerns about the apparent arms build-up are growing, with retired United States Army Captain Terry M. Hestilow sending a letter to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) warning that the ammo purchases represent “a bold threat of war by that agency (DHS), and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America.”

Questions from members of Congress about why the federal agency is buying up ammo, exacerbating shortages across the country, have been met with silence.

- Kansas Congressman Timothy Huelscamp said last week that threats should be made to withdraw funding from the DHS if it didn’t explain why it was purchasing so many bullets, remarking, “They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer to answer that.”

- Earlier this month, New Jersey Congressman Leonard Lance said, “Congress has a responsibility to ask Secretary Napolitano as to exactly why these purchases have occurred,” signaling his intention to get answers.

- Californian Congressman Doug LaMalfa and 14 of his House colleagues have written a letter to the Department of Homeland Security asking if the purchases are, “being conducted in a manner that strategically denies the American people access to ammunition.”

Although members of Congress are treating the matter with the seriousness it deserves, the mainstream and leftist media have attempted to ridicule the entire issue as a conspiracy theory, with Atlantic Wire even suggesting that the story had its origins in a debunked email, a report that completely failed to even mention the admitted fact that the DHS had purchased around 2 billion bullets.

While the DHS continues to purchase bullets in large quantities, police departments have been forced to barter amongst each other in a desperate scramble to meet their ammo needs.

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.


This article was posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 at 10:08 am

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Old 04-06-2013, 12:28 PM   #256
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Pretty incriminating, considering every other tweet I get from Obama is some kind of gun control recommendation.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:54 AM   #257
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GOP LAWMAKERS HOPE TO COMBAT AMMUNITION STOCKPILING BY GOV’T AGENCIES WITH AMMO ACT

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Republicans in the Senate and House are expected to introduce a joint bill Friday that would limit the amount of ammunition that federal agencies are allowed to buy and stockpile over the next six months, the Washington Free Beacon reports.

The bill, titled the Ammunition Management for More Accountability or “AMMO” Act, is being proposed after several lawmakers have voiced concerns about some federal agencies, like the Department of Homeland Security, seemingly stockpiling large quantities of ammo.

“DHS, for instance, has placed two-years worth of ammunition, or nearly 247 million rounds, in its inventory,” the Free Beacon notes.

In a statement provided to the Washington Free Beacon, one of the bill’s co-sponsors, Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.), said federal agencies must provide more “transparency and accountability” in regards to its “stockpiles of ammunition.”

“President Obama has been adamant about curbing law-abiding Americans’ access and opportunities to exercise their Second Amendment rights…One way the Obama administration is able to do this is by limiting what’s available in the market with federal agencies purchasing unnecessary stockpiles of ammunition,” the statement adds.
More here... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...with-ammo-act/
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:15 AM   #258
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247 million rounds is only a two year supply?!
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:26 AM   #259
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247 million rounds is only a two year supply?!
I don't know if that's a "worst case scenario" number? It would be interesting to know where the numbers come from.

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“As the public learned in a House committee hearing this week, the Department of Homeland Security has two years worth of ammo on hand and allots nearly 1,000 more rounds of ammunition for DHS officers than is used on average by our Army officers,” Inhofe said.
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Old 04-26-2013, 08:38 AM   #260
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I don't know if that's a "worst case scenario" number? It would be interesting to know where the numbers come from.
Yeah, no idea. Does that exclude all branches of the military?

Unless DHS provides bullets for training literally every law enforcement (federal, state and local) in the US, it's hard to fathom that they can burn through 247,000,000 bullets in 730 days...
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DHS asks companies if they can supply 2 million more rounds of ammo.

http://minutemennews.com/2013/05/dhs...of-ammunition/

I need to move my 401k to ammo manufacturers.
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DHS asks companies if they can supply 2 million more rounds of ammo.

http://minutemennews.com/2013/05/dhs...of-ammunition/

I need to move my 401k to ammo manufacturers.
why do they need 2 million more in a hurry??? I'm telling you this thing stinks to high heaven. I am not saying it's about civil unrest like the article claims but then again it could be. Or it could be as ammo just hit another shortage they are trying to pile on to keep it out of the hands of civilians.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:12 AM   #266
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why do they need 2 million more in a hurry??? I'm telling you this thing stinks to high heaven. I am not saying it's about civil unrest like the article claims but then again it could be. Or it could be as ammo just hit another shortage they are trying to pile on to keep it out of the hands of civilians.
I think it's the latter, but who knows with these guys?
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ATK Small Caliber Systems is the world’s leading producer of high-quality ammunition and links for the military in 5.56 mm, 7.62 mm and .50-caliber rounds. ATK ramped up production at the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant from the 400 million rounds produced in 2000 to a capacity of 1.6 billion rounds by 2012.

ATK facility management capabilities are integral to the U.S. munitions production enterprise at the Lake City plant in in Independence, Mo. We have served as the leading Department of Defense Prime Contractor for production of small-caliber ammunition since April 2000. In that time, ATK has produced more than 12 billion rounds of 5.56 mm, 7.62 mm, .50-caliber and 20 mm ammunition, and reduced costs to a cumulative savings of $1 billion. In partnership with the Army, ATK has implemented more than $370 million in modernization projects at the plant to ensure it remains a viable national asset for another 70 years.



Somebody plans to sell a lot of ammo
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DHS asks companies if they can supply 2 million more rounds of ammo.

http://minutemennews.com/2013/05/dhs...of-ammunition/

I need to move my 401k to ammo manufacturers.
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ATK doesn't make any handgun ammo ATM, so they are actually laying off a large portion of their work force right now. It will take major reconfiguration of the plant to switch to hangun ammo, mgmt is considering it, but for the immediate term, its layoffs. Heard this from someone who has worked there a long time, I doubt they are going to close or anything, but the outlook isn't all roses for them right now. As for the ramp up from 400M to 1.6B rounds per year from 2000 to 2012, surely we can put 2 and 2 together on that one right?
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I heard that also from a gun store owner that Lake City was laying off people.
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