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Old 04-18-2013, 10:16 AM  
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Will the Boston bombers be hired by Columbia University?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...7PwFkbO1NheqNL

Tale of two terrorists
By JOHN M. MURTAGH

Last Updated: 12:46 AM, April 18, 2013

Posted: 11:54 PM, April 17, 2013

Somewhere near Boston early Monday morning, he packed a bomb in a bag. It was by all accounts relatively crude — a pressure cooker, explosives, some wires, ball bearings and nails . . . nails which, hours later, doctors would struggle to remove from the flesh of bleeding victims.

His motive is unclear. His intent is not: It was to maximize injury, suffering, pain, trauma and, yes, death.

Perhaps Monday’s bomber will be caught, perhaps not.

Perhaps Monday’s bomber will be offered a teaching job at Columbia University.

Forty-three years ago last month, Kathy Boudin, now a professor at Columbia but then a member of the Weather Underground, escaped an explosion at a bomb factory operated in a townhouse in Greenwich Village. The story is familiar to people of a certain age.

Three weeks earlier, Boudin’s Weathermen had firebombed a private home in Upper Manhattan with Molotov cocktails. Their target was my father, a New York state Supreme Court justice. The rest of the family, was presumably, an afterthought. I was 9 at the time, only a year older than the youngest victim in Boston.

One of Boudin’s colleagues, Cathy Wilkerson, related in her memoir that the Weathermen were disappointed with the minimal effects of the bombs at my home. They decided to use dynamite the next time and bought a large quantity along with fuses, metal pipes and, yes, nails. The group designated as its next target a dance at an Officer’s Club at Fort Dix, NJ.

Despite the misgivings of some, it is reported that Kathy Boudin urged the use of “anti-personnel bombs.” In other words, she wanted to kill people not just damage property. Before they could act, her fellows were killed in the townhouse explosion. The townhouse itself collapsed; Boudin fled.

She reappeared over a decade later driving the getaway car for the rag tag mix of Weathermen and Black Panthers who held up a Rockland County bank in 1981, murdering three in the process. Survivors of the ambush along the New York State Thruway recount how Boudin emerged from the driver’s door, arms raised in surrender, asking the police to lower their guns. When they did, her accomplices burst from the back of the van guns blazing.

As I said, people of a certain age remember this history. For those that don’t, Robert Redford is kindly about to release a movie recounting the Rockland robbery (albeit relocated to Michigan). By all accounts, the film lionizes the Weather Underground terrorists, Boudin and her accomplices.

Perhaps to bring it full circle, Professor Boudin can soon guest-lecture at a film class at Columbia when the Redford movie is screened.

Other than the passage of time, one can find no real distinction between the cowardly actions of last Monday’s Boston murderer and the terror carried out by Boudin and her accomplices. Yet today we live in a country where our leading educational institutions see fit to trust our children’s education to murderers and Hollywood sees fit to celebrate terrorists.

The Web site of Columbia’s School of Social Work sums up Boudin’s past thus: “Dr. Kathy Boudin has been an educator and counselor with experience in program development since 1964, working within communities with limited resources to solve social problems.”

“Since 1964” — that would include the bombing of my house, it would include the anti-personnel devices intended for Fort Dix and it would include the dead policeman on the side of the Thruway in 1981.

Maybe, if he is caught, Monday’s bomber can explain that, like Boudin, he was merely working within the community to solve social problems.

Perhaps Monday’s bomber will be caught, perhaps not. Perhaps, some day, Monday’s bomber will be offered tenure at Columbia University.


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Old 04-18-2013, 11:23 AM   #16
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Well here he's shining a light on something he perceives as shameful. A expose on the dumbass things the post does should be easy for him with all the inside info ya know.

As far as what this guys is blathering about. If the guy(s) that committed the bombing serve their time, yes they should be allowed to seek employment. However, IMO they will be seeking that employment in another life so this is a pretty stupid subject to delve into in the first place.
So, before every writer at the Post writes an article they need to first write an expose on the Post. That seems like a weird idea of writing.

As far as him "blathering" about a person that tried to blow up his father with a bomb, and comparing it to the adjunct professor at Columbia - it's a legit observation. There's nothing not classy about it, as you implied above. The only real reason someone would think it was as outlandish as you seem to think it is, is if their political leanings made them react like a spaz.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:24 AM   #17
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What's the big hard-on you have for me about bro?
Don't know what you mean. You posted something dumb in this thread. I replied. A discussion took place.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:25 AM   #18
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What's the big hard-on you have for me about bro?
My guess is that he just thinks you're being ridiculous here. I know I do.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:29 AM   #19
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Don't know what you mean. You posted something dumb in this thread. I replied. A discussion took place.
This guy's passing judgement on a University that hired someone THAT SERVED THEIR TIME!!! If you have a problem with people seeking employment after serving their time, that's your(his) delusion, not mine. All the while his own company just showed a gross lack in professionalism. IRONY??? NO???

Do you guys honestly think the perps of this bombing will ever see the light of day again if prosecuted?
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:31 AM   #20
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This guy's passing judgement on a University that hired someone THAT SERVED THEIR TIME!!! If you have a problem with people seeking employment after serving their time, that's your(his) delusion, not mine. All the while his own company just showed a gross lack in professionalism. IRONY??? NO???

Do you guys honestly think the perps of this bombing will ever be see the light of day again if prosecuted?
Kathy Boudin did.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:32 AM   #21
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Here is an interesting essay on this story.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/erikcam...-erik-campano/


Maybe the chick has apologized since then. Apparently she served 20+ years in prison.

If she is still doing criminal things, it would be a bad idea to have her teaching at a University. She must be behaving because she has had the job since 2008, and it is only now that the right-wing press has started crying about it.

I'd say that unless her critics want to pay her not to work, they have to accept that she has a right to earn a living and to do business with whoever would do business with her.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:34 AM   #22
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Here is an interesting essay on this story.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/erikcam...-erik-campano/
There was already a thread about this a few weeks ago.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=271781
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:35 AM   #23
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This guy's passing judgement on a University that hired someone THAT SERVED THEIR TIME!!! If you have a problem with people seeking employment after serving their time, that's your(his) delusion, not mine. All the while his own company just showed a gross lack in professionalism. IRONY??? NO???

Do you guys honestly think the perps of this bombing will ever see the light of day again if prosecuted?

You're kind of embarrassing yourself here today.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:35 AM   #24
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Kathy Boudin did.
Yes. Because she plea bargained AND DIDN"T PERSONALLY KILL ANYONE.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:36 AM   #25
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This guy's passing judgement on a University that hired someone THAT SERVED THEIR TIME!!! If you have a problem with people seeking employment after serving their time, that's your(his) delusion, not mine. All the while his own company just showed a gross lack in professionalism. IRONY??? NO???

Do you guys honestly think the perps of this bombing will ever be see the light of day again if prosecuted?
She was supposed to serve 20 to life, and her fellow terrorists received much harsher prison sentences than she did, so it can be argued that she has not served her time.

It is an opinion piece...so the author can pass judgement however he likes. Columbia is free to hire whomever they wish, but as an institution in the public eye, they are not immune from criticism when they make horrible hiring decisions. Would you want a terrorist like her teaching your son or daughter in a college class?
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:36 AM   #26
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This guy's passing judgement on a University that hired someone THAT SERVED THEIR TIME!!! If you have a problem with people seeking employment after serving their time, that's your(his) delusion, not mine. All the while his own company just showed a gross lack in professionalism. IRONY??? NO???

Do you guys honestly think the perps of this bombing will ever be see the light of day again if prosecuted?
That's a pretty simplistic viewpoint. Maybe Toys R Us should be given a pass for hiring child molestors after they've served their time, eh?

Being a "respected mouthpiece" for a major university after this kind of personal history doesn't seem irresponsible to you? There are plenty of people who have this persons political agenda who didn't actually blow something up who could have that position.
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:38 AM   #27
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You're kind of embarrassing yourself here today.
Really? Because it seems that my only detractors seem to be the usual dickbag troll combo of pat and yourself. I'm sure Crapface with be along shortly with photoshops and links to sites nobody's every heard of.
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She was supposed to serve 20 to life, and her fellow terrorists received much harsher prison sentences than she did, so it can be argued that she has not served her time.

It is an opinion piece...so the author can pass judgement however he likes. Columbia is free to hire whomever they wish, but as an institution in the public eye, they are not immune from criticism when they make horrible hiring decisions. Would you want a terrorist like her teaching your son or daughter in a college class?
Has she been vetted since serving her time? Yes? Then yes, she can teach.
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This guy's passing judgement on a University that hired someone THAT SERVED THEIR TIME!!! If you have a problem with people seeking employment after serving their time, that's your(his) delusion, not mine. All the while his own company just showed a gross lack in professionalism. IRONY??? NO???

Do you guys honestly think the perps of this bombing will ever see the light of day again if prosecuted?
1. I doubt that this guy works for the Post.

2. Do you really have a problem with this guy holding a grudge against a lady who tried to kill his family when he was 9, even if she has technically paid her debt to society? Of with the Post for giving him a forum for his apparent dissatisfaction with the assessment of that debt?
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She was supposed to serve 20 to life, and her fellow terrorists received much harsher prison sentences than she did, so it can be argued that she has not served her time.

It is an opinion piece...so the author can pass judgement however he likes. Columbia is free to hire whomever they wish, but as an institution in the public eye, they are not immune from criticism when they make horrible hiring decisions. Would you want a terrorist like her teaching your son or daughter in a college class?
Yes, it's an opinion piece. And my opinion about his opinion is that it's wrong. And your opinion can be that I'm wrong. Opinions for everyone, yay!!!!
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