Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-17-2013, 02:12 PM  
luv luv is offline
Someday
 
luv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Springfield, MO
Casino cash: $5765
Claire McCaskill: If Boston bombings are terrorism, why not Sandy Hook?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...ook-90213.html

Claire McCaskill: If Boston bombings are terrorism, why not Sandy Hook?

By SCOTT WONG | 4/17/13 1:10 PM EDT

If President Barack Obama and the U.S. government consider the perpetrator of the Boston bombings a terrorist, then why not the shooter who killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School?

“Based on the evidence at this point, is there any difference between Sandy Hook and Boston other than the choice of weapon?” Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) asked Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano during a congressional hearing Wednesday.

Napolitano didn’t have a simple response.

“In terms of intent for death and destruction and injury, no,” she said, “Methodology, yes. And we don’t know the motivation behind, certainly, Boston — we don’t know whether it was domestic, it’s international ...”

“Or if it was identical to the motivation in Sandy Hook,” McCaskill suggested.

“It’s impossible for me to sit at the table today and say they are identical except in effect and impact,” Napolitano said.

On the same day the Senate was expected to vote on several gun-control provisions, McCaskill pressed Napolitano to reevaluate when and how the federal government defines a criminal act as terrorism — especially when, in the case of the Boston incident, no suspects or motives are known.

“We are so quick to call Boston terror,” McCaskill said. “Why aren’t we calling the man with the high-capacity assault weapon and the high-capacity magazine, why aren’t we calling him a terrorist?”

“I don’t know the answer to that question,” the secretary replied.

“It just is troubling to me,” said McCaskill, a former county prosecutor. “I think both of them, maybe they had identical motives. Just one chose a military-style weapon with a high-capacity magazine, and the other one chose to make a homemade bomb.”

A day after Monday’s twin Boston bombings that killed three people and injured 176, Obama told reporters the FBI is investigating the attack as “an act of terror.” Napolitano repeated that line in testimony before the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday morning.

Later Wednesday afternoon, an amendment by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) — requiring background checks for firearms purchases — was expected to fall short of the 60 votes needed to pass.

The Senate will take up eight other amendments as well, including a ban on assault weapons and a ban on high-capacity magazines like those used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Conn., in December.

Last edited by luv; 04-17-2013 at 02:27 PM..
Posts: 59,655
luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.luv is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 02:58 PM   #16
Prison Bitch Prison Bitch is online now
The Bitch is back
 
Prison Bitch's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Lees summit
Casino cash: $9274
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
More evidence that the left is trying to make as though it's right-wingers..

Of course. That's why you have MSNBC talking about "Tea Partiers" as culprits. It's their angry, bitchy, limp-wristed response to the obvious Muslim assumption everyone (including Liberals by the way) immediately thinks of EVERY TIME something happens after 9/11. It's only natural and you can't stop nature, although Libs think they can.


Those little bitches are so pathetic, it's almsot humorous.
Posts: 13,754
Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.Prison Bitch is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 03:24 PM   #17
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $8233
Quote:
Originally Posted by Douchemaster General View Post
Shit, I guess they're going to make bombs illegal now.

And one of the highlights of first grade for me was Bring A Bomb To School Day.

****.

No, pressure cookers.
__________________
Posts: 57,415
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 03:57 PM   #18
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is online now
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $8596
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon View Post
Who gives a **** what you call it? Just babble being they know there is nothing they can do about it but want their stance known as "this is terrible".

Well no shit sherlock.
petegz gives a ****. He gives a real big ****. He's obsessed with it.


Why did Obama not call the Boston bombings an act of terrorism?
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=272140
Posts: 18,336
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 04:32 PM   #19
WhawhaWhat WhawhaWhat is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Casino cash: $7485
She doesn't understand the difference between mass murder and terrorism, and that you can have one without the other.
Posts: 4,353
WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.WhawhaWhat Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 05:10 PM   #20
theelusiveeightrop theelusiveeightrop is offline
Spiraling down the Drain
 
theelusiveeightrop's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Dante's Ninth Circle
Casino cash: $8126
Claire, take the green pills, not the red ones.
__________________
"We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family."

2014 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
Posts: 19,940
theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.theelusiveeightrop is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 05:20 PM   #21
donkhater donkhater is offline
Brilliant!!
 
donkhater's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Zionsville, IN, USA
Casino cash: $5732
It think you are all missing the point. If they can somehow call mass shooting a terrorist act, then they have more legislative muscle to enact gun restrictions based on anti terror laws and jurisdiction by Homeland Security. A random evil man brandishing a gun can too easily be passed off as an isolated incident, but if its a terrorist attack, then the federal government must act, by golly.
__________________
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
Posts: 3,670
donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.donkhater would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 05:33 PM   #22
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Casino cash: $6287
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious View Post
Was terror injected into the country through violence?

Since when does someone need an agenda to terrorize the public?
Since the word terrorism was invented.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy View Post
Saul 2014
Posts: 30,661
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 05:34 PM   #23
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Casino cash: $6287
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptlyon View Post
Who gives a **** what you call it? Just babble being they know there is nothing they can do about it but want their stance known as "this is terrible".

Well no shit sherlock.
Identifying what we are dealing with seems pretty important to me.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy View Post
Saul 2014
Posts: 30,661
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 06:05 PM   #24
NWTF NWTF is offline
Starter
 
NWTF's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: overland park
Casino cash: $5120
Ill probably get blasted for this but, Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about Sandy Hook? It feels like Sandy Hook was thought to to be the final straw to get the ball rolling on gun control and some lawmakers just wont let it go.

I read an article yesterday on how tragedy has struck twice now for sandy hook. Apparently there were a few participants in the Boston marathon from Newton running to honor the victims. None of them were near the blasts, but some media outlet searched them out and wrote up an article on how tragic this was for them. The story just mainly rehashed the incident in Newtown.
Posts: 366
NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.NWTF must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 06:11 PM   #25
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $8233
Quote:
Originally Posted by NWTF View Post
Ill probably get blasted for this but, Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about Sandy Hook?
I am. I mean, I felt aweful about it when it first happened. But to think how strict gun control is in Conn, that this would improve things is just such a stupid disconnect because it's really exploitation it makes me angry. But this is how demagogues operate. It starts to harden one on that past incident.
__________________
Posts: 57,415
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 06:29 PM   #26
mlyonsd mlyonsd is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Spink, SD
Casino cash: $6322
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
Since the word terrorism was invented.
Was Boston an act of terror?
Posts: 25,064
mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 06:34 PM   #27
Saul Good Saul Good is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Casino cash: $6287
Quote:
Originally Posted by mlyonsd View Post
Was Boston an act of terror?
How should I know? Probably, but we don't know who did it or why.

Let's say a store owner was going broke, so he blew up his building for insurance money. That wouldn't be terrorism. It would just be a greedy asshole with no respect for the lives of others.

Terrorism is easily the most likely explanation, but it isn't the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Diddy View Post
Saul 2014
Posts: 30,661
Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.Saul Good is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 06:38 PM   #28
petegz28 petegz28 is offline
Supporter
 
petegz28's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Olathe, Ks
Casino cash: $7160
The Left if ****ing desperate to pin this on the Right somehow and blame guns whle they are at it
__________________
"Finally, anyone who uses the terms, irregardless, a whole nother, or all of a sudden shall be sentenced to a work camp."

Stewie Griffin
Posts: 65,850
petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.petegz28 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 06:45 PM   #29
RedNeckRaider RedNeckRaider is offline
Got highway?
 
RedNeckRaider's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Close to the big pond~
Casino cash: $6012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
How should I know? Probably, but we don't know who did it or why.

Let's say a store owner was going broke, so he blew up his building for insurance money. That wouldn't be terrorism. It would just be a greedy asshole with no respect for the lives of others.

Terrorism is easily the most likely explanation, but it isn't the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation.
Are you ****ing serious?
__________________
There are several ways to view the world we live in. I personally enjoy it with the wind in my face and the vibration of my bike beneath me~
Posts: 24,093
RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2013, 06:46 PM   #30
mlyonsd mlyonsd is offline
Supporter
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Spink, SD
Casino cash: $6322
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul Good View Post
How should I know? Probably, but we don't know who did it or why.

Let's say a store owner was going broke, so he blew up his building for insurance money. That wouldn't be terrorism. It would just be a greedy asshole with no respect for the lives of others.

Terrorism is easily the most likely explanation, but it isn't the ONLY POSSIBLE explanation.
Your example doesn't come close to the reality of Boston.

Multiple bombs set. Bomber(s) don't stick around to face the consequences. That isn't mass murder, the intent is to terrorize. Terrorize in the reality it all could happen again. You don't need a political motive to terrorize. Some sick **** just getting his jollies watching the explosion over and over on tv thinking it would be great to do again before he's caught is terrorism. Maybe not the form you think it is but he has already set in motion the alteration of how we do things in the future publicly. To me, by default, that fits the definition of terrorism.

Also, because the way it's worded in the Patriot Act, this is considered an act of terrorism thus allowing the authorities to proceed with the investigation the same as if it was assumed AQ did it.
Posts: 25,064
mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.mlyonsd is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.