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Obama Signs Monsanto Protection Act Into Law After Promising GMO Labeling in 2007

Obama Signs Monsanto Protection Act Into Law After Promising GMO Labeling in 2007

President Obama has signed into law the notorious Monsanto Protection Act legislation hidden inside of the Continuing Resolution spending bill, which protects Monsanto and its genetically modified creations from federal courts.

by Anthony Gucciardi
NaturalSociety.com
March 28, 2013

Passing up the chance to veto the bill in favor of stopping Monsanto’s increasing monopoly on the food supply, Obama pushed the bill through into a law in a move that reminds us of his failed 2007 promise to ‘immediately’ label GMOs upon his election.

Contained in the rider (Farmer Assurance Provision, Sec. 735) of HR 933, Monsanto is now even protected (at least under this law) from the United States government.

As I pointed out in a previous article, the Monsanto Protection Act’s success actually proves how corporations have more power than even the United States federal government. Monsanto’s lobbyists managed to slip the rider into the major bill, which — despite the rider — has virtually nothing to do with the topic.

This is a typical and routinely practiced move by lobbyists to insert an incognito line of legislation into a bill generally viewed as favorable overall. One that has proven to be effective for Monsanto.


2007 Promise to Label GMOs

The result is now major outcry against Obama for signing the bill into law and protecting the biotech juggernaut Monsanto. Many fail to remember, however, that Obama first decided to allow Monsanto to continue pulverizing the food supply and the health of the nation back in 2008 when he went back on his promise to ‘immediately’ label GMOs. It was in 2007, during a campaign speech, that Obama first stated his support of non-GMO and GMO labeling activists, in which he promised to swiftly label GMOs.


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For a brief period before the bill was passed by the Senate and now signed into law by Obama, both myself and many others in the alternative news community crusaded tirelessly to alert politicians and activists in order to stop the Protection Act from going through. Unfortunately, time was not on our side. The hasty vote by the Senate and the news blackout from the mainstream media were enough to break through the warnings of concerned activists (and people who just want real food). Now, however, renewed interest in the GMO labeling campaign and the fight against Monsanto brews.

With such a blatant and cocky act against the United States and its people, Monsanto has set itself up to fail. Let’s remind Obama of his promise to label GMOs he made many years ago.

http://intellihub.com/2013/03/28/oba...ing-in-2007-2/
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:03 PM   #61
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Compared with ground-up cow bones, corn seems positively wholesome. Yet it wreaks considerable havoc on bovine digestion. During my day at Poky, I spent an hour or two driving around the yard with Dr. Mel Metzen, the staff veterinarian. Metzen, a 1997 graduate of Kansas State’s vet school, oversees a team of eight cowboys who spend their days riding the yard, spotting sick cows and bringing them in for treatment. A great many of their health problems can be traced to their diet. “They’re made to eat forage,” Metzen said, “and we’re making them eat grain.”

Perhaps the most serious thing that can go wrong with a ruminant on corn is feedlot bloat. The rumen is always producing copious amounts of gas, which is normally expelled by belching during rumination. But when the diet contains too much starch and too little roughage, rumination all but stops, and a layer of foamy slime that can trap gas forms in the rumen. The rumen inflates like a balloon, pressing against the animal’s lungs. Unless action is promptly taken to relieve the pressure (usually by forcing a hose down the animal’s esophagus), the cow suffocates.

A corn diet can also give a cow acidosis. Unlike that in our own highly acidic stomachs, the normal pH of a rumen is neutral. Corn makes it unnaturally acidic, however, causing a kind of bovine heartburn, which in some cases can kill the animal but usually just makes it sick. Acidotic animals go off their feed, pant and salivate excessively, paw at their bellies and eat dirt. The condition can lead to diarrhea, ulcers, bloat, liver disease and a general weakening of the immune system that leaves the animal vulnerable to everything from pneumonia to feedlot polio.
Exactly what I said. cut back grain. Increase hay. Rebalance the ration. Producers been doing that forever.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:25 PM   #62
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Again, since nuance is nonexistent on this forum, I"d like to state again that I don't think that GM corn or crops in general are a pox upon us, but there are consequences from using them, and in the case of corn, using it as a foodstuff on such a massive scale.
Yeah I agree. People's fear of GMOs is misguided. The basis of safety concerns for GMOs are environmental, as opposed to the effects on humans. That's not to say we know everything we can possibly know about the long term effects of human consumption. But we know considerably more than most people realize. GMOs for human consumption are the most extensively studied food product in the world. There are still concerns there, and we have a lot more to learn. But the real danger is environmental. And the trouble with that is the fact that we've got so many millions of acres planted already, that if a real long term danger was discovered, it would be an outright disaster and we'd lose quite a bit.

Most scientists worry more about the effects GMOs could have on insects, and potential gene flow to other plants. Gene flow to other plants usually only happens when the plants are closely related. But insects eating the plants are a different story. And insects play a much bigger part in the maintenance of our environment than most people give them credit for. The really long term effects of that relationship are still pretty questionable.

There's a mountain of misinformation on the topic too. From both sides. And that's really frustrating. But overall, GMOs are beneficial and will continue to play a big part in feeding the world. But I do think we need to apply more caution and not make ourselves even more dependent on GMOs than we already are, just in case. There's danger in any mass food production.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:51 PM   #63
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No cattleman in their right mind would treat it with monensin. Thats Tylan by trade name. You have to inject it or feed it as a feed additive. You found an abstract of a study done to determine if they could work, not is it used. The acidosis can be fixed in under two days by increasing hay in the ration and reducing grain...grain componant may be milo, corn, or wheat...not isolated to corn. The change in ration is actually a cheaper feed vs treating with a drug that will add cost and you still have to change the ration...the ration causes the problem. Again, its a dairy issue not a beef issue. And in lactating cows you want to have few if any antibiotics introduced into the cow.

The trial you link was an attempt to prevent acidosis. Good stewardship practices prevent it, we dont feed drugs in anticipation of what amounts to an acid stomach in cattle.
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From the aforementioned article:

What keeps a feedlot animal healthy—or healthy enough—are antibiotics. Rumensin inhibits gas production in the rumen, helping to prevent bloat; tylosin reduces the incidence of liver infection. Most of the antibiotics sold in America end up in animal feed—a practice that, it is now generally acknowledged, leads directly to the evolution of new antibiotic-resistant “superbugs.” In the debate over the use of antibiotics in agriculture, a distinction is usually made between clinical and nonclinical uses. Public-health advocates don’t object to treating sick animals with antibiotics; they just don’t want to see the drugs lose their efficacy because factory farms are feeding them to healthy animals to promote growth. But the use of antibiotics in feedlot cattle confounds this distinction. Here the drugs are plainly being used to treat sick animals, yet the animals probably wouldn’t be sick if not for what we feed them.


I asked Metzen what would happen if antibiotics were banned from cattle feed. “We just couldn’t feed them as hard,” he said. “Or we’d have a higher death loss.” (Less than 3 percent of cattle die on the feedlot.) The price of beef would rise, he said, since the whole system would have to slow down.


“Hell, if you gave them lots of grass and space,” he concluded dryly, “I wouldn’t have a job.”

These are all beef cattle, not dairy cows.
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There's a shitload of bullshit anti-GMO propaganda with this "Monsanto Protection Bill".

It doesn't protect Monsanto, it protects farmers who buy seeds and don't have to destroy their crops because of a frivolous lawsuit. It's a small regulatory reform. And I'm guessing not many here have much experience with the regulatory affairs of a biotech company.

GMO is a scary acronym due to baseless hysteria.
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:26 PM   #65
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Yeah I agree. People's fear of GMOs is misguided. The basis of safety concerns for GMOs are environmental, as opposed to the effects on humans. That's not to say we know everything we can possibly know about the long term effects of human consumption. But we know considerably more than most people realize. GMOs for human consumption are the most extensively studied food product in the world. There are still concerns there, and we have a lot more to learn. But the real danger is environmental. And the trouble with that is the fact that we've got so many millions of acres planted already, that if a real long term danger was discovered, it would be an outright disaster and we'd lose quite a bit.

Most scientists worry more about the effects GMOs could have on insects, and potential gene flow to other plants. Gene flow to other plants usually only happens when the plants are closely related. But insects eating the plants are a different story. And insects play a much bigger part in the maintenance of our environment than most people give them credit for. The really long term effects of that relationship are still pretty questionable.

There's a mountain of misinformation on the topic too. From both sides. And that's really frustrating. But overall, GMOs are beneficial and will continue to play a big part in feeding the world. But I do think we need to apply more caution and not make ourselves even more dependent on GMOs than we already are, just in case. There's danger in any mass food production.
I wouldn't say "most" scientists worry about the effects on insects.

I don't think most people even know what RoundUp Ready even means. And it's very simple: a gene taken from soil bacteria ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrobacterium_tumefaciens ) that codes for ONE specific protein is implanted into the genome of whatever plant you want to make roundup ready. The active chemical in roundup, glyphosate, shuts down the enzyme that produces a few specific amino acids in plants and fungi (BUT NOT MAMMALS). Round up ready plants have resistance to glyphosate. when you apply glyphosate to plants, it kills the nonresistant plants.

insects, animals, people, soil bacteria aren't harmed by glyphosate because they don't have the same target enzyme as plants. insects eating roundup ready plants will see no difference than if they ate wildtype plants.

what happens if roundup ready rice were to hybridize with wildtype rice? well not much. roundup ready doesn't add any advantage in the wild, wildtype rice isn't exposed to glyphosate unless someone sprays it, it doesn't show up from other plants or insects or anything except chemists. since there is no evolutionary advantage to being roundup ready, the mutation disappears within a generation or two.

there is a shitload of GMO hysteria, but the benefits far, far outweigh the few negatives that exist
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:29 AM   #66
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If you haven't seen Food inc., here is the full documentary:

http://documentaryaddict.com/Food+In...cumentary.html

At the one-hour and 16 minute mark, it starts to talk about revolving door between Monsanto and our government.

And if you don't mind actually reading books, I suggest Micheal Pollan:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_asi_1...qid=1364732872

Specificlly, In Defense of Food
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A lot of uninformed dumbasses in this thread.
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The safety review on this was funded by Monsanto itself. That otta work.
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Roundup resistance in weeds is real. But resistance to herbicides among weed species is not limited to roundup.
which is why Monsanto has a focused weed mangement program. It started with RR ready cotton.....solutions through other chemistries with RoudUp is having success.... http://www.monsanto.com/weedmanageme...s/default.aspx
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There's a shitload of bullshit anti-GMO propaganda with this "Monsanto Protection Bill".

It doesn't protect Monsanto, it protects farmers who buy seeds and don't have to destroy their crops because of a frivolous lawsuit. It's a small regulatory reform. And I'm guessing not many here have much experience with the regulatory affairs of a biotech company.

GMO is a scary acronym due to baseless hysteria.
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I wouldn't say "most" scientists worry about the effects on insects.

I don't think most people even know what RoundUp Ready even means. And it's very simple: a gene taken from soil bacteria ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrobacterium_tumefaciens ) that codes for ONE specific protein is implanted into the genome of whatever plant you want to make roundup ready. The active chemical in roundup, glyphosate, shuts down the enzyme that produces a few specific amino acids in plants and fungi (BUT NOT MAMMALS). Round up ready plants have resistance to glyphosate. when you apply glyphosate to plants, it kills the nonresistant plants.

insects, animals, people, soil bacteria aren't harmed by glyphosate because they don't have the same target enzyme as plants. insects eating roundup ready plants will see no difference than if they ate wildtype plants.

what happens if roundup ready rice were to hybridize with wildtype rice? well not much. roundup ready doesn't add any advantage in the wild, wildtype rice isn't exposed to glyphosate unless someone sprays it, it doesn't show up from other plants or insects or anything except chemists. since there is no evolutionary advantage to being roundup ready, the mutation disappears within a generation or two.

there is a shitload of GMO hysteria, but the benefits far, far outweigh the few negatives that exist

srsly?? chem-food is good people food???
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...GMO is a scary acronym due to baseless hysteria.
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You can't mention GMO & Monsanto without talking about 'Roundup'. 'Roundup' is not "safe as table salt." (As Monsanto would have you believe.) It's been documented that Round up contains 1,4-dioxane; a carcinogenic substance to mammals & a probable carcinogen to humans. It damages the brain, lungs, and liver amongst other organs. To deny this is a lie. Monsanto has been ramrodding toxic chemicals on the American public for decades. And the federal government has been an absentee gatekeeper when it comes to public safety & properly regulating dangerous chemicals in our country.

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