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View Poll Results: What do you think of my conspiracy theory?
I think it's quite plausible, and in fact I think it's happening. 5 33.33%
I think it's plausible, but it's not what's happening. North Korea is just crazy. 7 46.67%
I don't think it's plausible, but it's possible, I guess. 2 13.33%
You're spewing nonsense. We're the defenders of democracy, facing down evil. Case closed. 0 0%
I only watch North Korea when they're playing Duke in the NCAA tournament. 1 6.67%
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:43 PM  
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My conspiracy theory regarding North Korea.

If you've been following the news, there's been a lot of saber rattling near the 38th parallel in recent weeks. Looking at North Korea, I don't see any particular reason for this timing, but now we've got U.S. bombers circling over South Korea in holding patterns, and discussions about missiles aimed toward American targets.

Why? Why now?

Here's my conspiracy theory.

North Korea is working toward building a bomb, and they're working toward building missiles. Welcome to the club, but we don't want them in the club.

So take a look at North Korea. It's got a 29 year-old leader whose control is somewhat uncertain, a bunch of military leaders who are probably running the place, and an economy that is not exactly prosperous. They have a massive military, but the scuttlebutt is that they have one week's worth of fuel. After that, every piece of mechanized machinery shuts down.

It's pretty much a given that if they start a war, it'll be over in two weeks, and it won't end in North Korea's favor. Sure, they'll beat the hell out of Seoul and the rest of the south for a week, but do we Americans really mind seeing Hyundai and Kia plants in smoking rubble? And when it's all over, Kim Jong Un is going to be hiding in a plus-sized spider hole somewhere and there are going to be a lot of toppled Kim Il Sung statues. Democracy and capitalism will score a win, a nuclear rogue state will disappear, we'll get to remove the 'north' and 'south' from Korea, and we'll feel good about freeing a bunch of political prisoners and opening a McDonald's in Pyongyang.

Now, China is a bit of a wildcard, as we all remember from our M*A*S*H episodes. But from what we read, they're a bit fed up with North Korea now too, so it's possible that they could sit on the sidelines in this sequel.

So maybe the time is right to poke North Korea with a stick when nobody's looking. We get them all riled up, let them start something, and then pound them down with the troops that conveniently have been pulling out of the Middle East. No more missiles, no more nuclear threat, and hey, we didn't start it. All before they get the bomb.

What do you think?

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Old 03-30-2013, 07:09 AM   #31
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No, they are still a joke. You are correct that they have improved by leaps and bounds though. At this stage they'd be INCREDIBLY lucky to hit Japan at all. Yes they have the raw range with a VERY few barely tested platforms but their guidance and warhead tech isn't even close. If they had more than a couple in this class (and they don't) they'd basically have to fire and pray that one hit anything other than ocean. They could of course pound the crap out of Seoul if they wanted to. BUT we have more than capable missile defense systems to handle that ... in theory... I have no clue if we have them deployed there in significant enough numbers to handle capacity.

Tough situation and one that may not get a resolution as long as we continue to be China's bitch in so many facets of foreign policy.
I stand by my assessment of their ballistic technology. I hope that my opinion is not proven out soon.

Japan doesn't have an up to date ground to air defenses. Obviously our military bases are up to date. but, to ensure a adequate ground based mislle defense you need an Israeli "iron dome" solution. Japan is no where near this capacity.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:51 PM   #32
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I spend a lot of time in South Korea (many, many months over the last 15 years), and I mind. It is a lot more than Hyundai and Kia plants. It is a thriving, modern, and quite beautiful country. In many ways more modern than the US (fiber optic internet to every household in the nation, for example). When you see it as a real place, with real people, then you don't want to see it as "smoking rubble". Some pictures I've taken:
Oh, I've got nothing against South Korea. I spent time there a couple of decades ago, and the people are quite nice.

But from a ruthless geopolitical perspective, I think it would assist the U.S. economy if the South Korean economy got beat up and took a couple of decades to recover.
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:17 PM   #33
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Oh, I've got nothing against South Korea. I spent time there a couple of decades ago, and the people are quite nice.

But from a ruthless geopolitical perspective, I think it would assist the U.S. economy if the South Korean economy got beat up and took a couple of decades to recover.
I doubt it. Our economy is too tied to theirs. What happens to them happens to us. We are both G20 members.

My point was about the idea that many Americans have that South Korea is some kind of third world nation with nothing but rice paddies and factories. It is a first world nation, and a top 15 economy.

If you haven't been there for a couple of decades you haven't seen how much it has changed since then. Just since I first went in 1999 it is a completely different country. Completely different.

Seoul is a world class city now, with beautiful parks, great public transportation, filled with upwardly mobile people.
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