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Old 03-15-2013, 09:28 PM  
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Rand Paul Introduces ‘Life at Conception Act’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...onception-act/
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul on Thursday introduced the “Life At Conception Act,” saying that the “right to life is guaranteed to all Americans.”

“I plan to ensure this is upheld,” the Republican senator added.

“Sen. Paul introduced S.583, a bill that would implement equal protection under the 14th Amendment for the right to life of each born and unborn human,” the senator’s office said, per a press release.

“This legislation does not amend or interpret the Constitution, but simply relies on the 14th Amendment, which specifically authorizes Congress to enforce its provisions,” his office adds.

Here is what Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The bill has 15 cosponsors (all Republican) including Sens. John Barrasso (Wyo.), John Boozman (Ark.), Richard Burr (N.C.), Daniel Coats (Ind.), Thomas Coburn (Okla.), Michael Enzi (Wyo.), Deb Fischer (Neb.), Charles “Chuck” Grassley (Iowa), John Hoeven (N.D.), James “Jim” Inhofe (Okla.), Mike Johanns (Neb.), Jerry Moran (Kan.), James Risch (Idaho), John Thune (S.D.), and Roger Wicker (Miss.)

“The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known — that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection,” Sen. Paul said.

“The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence and ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress,” he added.





Senator Rand PaulVerified account@SenRandPaul Introduced Life at Conception Act. The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans & I plan to ensure this is upheld.


http://www.paul.senate.gov/files/documents/LCA.pdf
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:11 PM   #61
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So if we passed a law stating all Brocks should be hung, would you still stick with it? Or would you rather take the better path and revert back to the pre Brock hanging laws?
Weak reductio effort.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:12 PM   #62
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Weak reductio effort.
So in other words take your ball and go home, got it.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:17 PM   #63
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So if we passed a law stating all Brocks should be hung, would you still stick with it? Or would you rather take the better path and revert back to the pre Brock hanging laws?
You're usually better at this.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:18 PM   #64
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You're usually better at this.
Seriously is murder ok or not?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:18 PM   #65
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yeah the government dictating morality to its citizens always works out well.
You mean like the moral argument liberals use for welfare and warfare as an excuse to confiscate wealth?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:20 PM   #66
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You mean like the moral argument liberals use for welfare and warfare as an excuse to confiscate wealth?
Since I'm not in favor of that either, I am more consistent than you are.
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:22 PM   #67
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Seriously is murder ok or not?
You're really asking this?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:24 PM   #68
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You're really asking this?
Well..ya..Isn't that what we're talking about? Should the baby have a say in it?
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:39 PM   #69
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So in other words take your ball and go home, got it.
No, in other words, one of the worst attempts at reductio ad absurdum arguing I've ever seen in any internet forum.

An unbelievably immature and weak comparison.
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Well..ya..Isn't that what we're talking about? Should the baby have a say in it?
Why are we talking about abortion at all? Dead baby gets sent straight to heaven, everybody else burns in hell for it.

ISN'T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU??????
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Well..ya..Isn't that what we're talking about? Should the baby have a say in it?
Abortion isn't murder, no matter how badly you and others want them to be or think they should be. Sorry to break that to you.

If it WERE, we wouldn't have abortions in this country. Legal ones, anyway.

Can't make it any more black and white than that. The rest is just a bunch of teeth grinding.
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Why are we talking about abortion at all? Dead baby gets sent straight to heaven, everybody else burns in hell for it.

ISN'T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU??????
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MOTHER'S ETERNAL SOUL WE HAVE TO SAVE HER FROM HERSLEF
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Rand Paul Introduces ‘Life at Conception Act’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...onception-act/
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul on Thursday introduced the “Life At Conception Act,” saying that the “right to life is guaranteed to all Americans.”

“I plan to ensure this is upheld,” the Republican senator added.

“Sen. Paul introduced S.583, a bill that would implement equal protection under the 14th Amendment for the right to life of each born and unborn human,” the senator’s office said, per a press release.

“This legislation does not amend or interpret the Constitution, but simply relies on the 14th Amendment, which specifically authorizes Congress to enforce its provisions,” his office adds.

Here is what Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The bill has 15 cosponsors (all Republican) including Sens. John Barrasso (Wyo.), John Boozman (Ark.), Richard Burr (N.C.), Daniel Coats (Ind.), Thomas Coburn (Okla.), Michael Enzi (Wyo.), Deb Fischer (Neb.), Charles “Chuck” Grassley (Iowa), John Hoeven (N.D.), James “Jim” Inhofe (Okla.), Mike Johanns (Neb.), Jerry Moran (Kan.), James Risch (Idaho), John Thune (S.D.), and Roger Wicker (Miss.)

“The Life at Conception Act legislatively declares what most Americans believe and what science has long known — that human life begins at the moment of conception, and therefore is entitled to legal protection,” Sen. Paul said.

“The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans in the Declaration of Independence and ensuring this is upheld is the Constitutional duty of all Members of Congress,” he added.





Senator Rand PaulVerified account@SenRandPaul Introduced Life at Conception Act. The right to life is guaranteed to all Americans & I plan to ensure this is upheld.


http://www.paul.senate.gov/files/documents/LCA.pdf
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Abortion isn't murder, no matter how badly you and others want them to be or think they should be. Sorry to break that to you.

If it WERE, we wouldn't have abortions in this country. Legal ones, anyway.

Can't make it any more black and white than that. The rest is just a bunch of teeth grinding.
Me shooting you in the head isn't murder, no matter how badly you and others want them to be or think they should be. Sorry to break that to you.

That sounds fairly absurd if you ask me, but by all means continue down that slippery slope hoping that sanity is reached.
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