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Old 03-06-2013, 07:32 AM  
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Obama closes the White House tours that were run by VOLUNTEERS. He's blaming it on the Sequester

The White House has canceled tours until further notice, the White House Visitors Office confirmed, citing sequester cuts.

Tours will continue through Friday, March 8. All tours for March 9 and onward have been canceled and will not be rescheduled due to “staffing reductions resulting from sequestration,” the office says.
“We very much regret having to take this action, particularly during the popular Spring touring season,” the office’s statement reads.
Some Republicans are skeptical.

“They just jumped the sharquester,” said John Hart, a spokesman for Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.). Coburn has long highlighted ways the federal government could cut back on what he considers needless spending. But in this case, he’s opposed to the White House’s decision.
“It’s clearly a PR ploy,” Hart said. “They can tour the country on the taxpayer’s dime but can’t allow taxpayers to tour the White House? Seriously?”
Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), agreed. “This decision appears to be purely political in nature rather than being in the best interest of the American people,” he said in a letter to Obama.
The White House has been highlighting cuts from the sequester in order to put pressure on congressional Republicans to compromise on ending tax loopholes.
“We are going to manage it as best we can, try to minimize the impacts on American families, but it’s not the right way for us to go about deficit reduction,” President Obama said Monday.
Not every administration claim has held up. Our Factchecker dinged Education Secretary Arne Duncan for saying over the weekend that teachers are already being laid off thanks to the sequester, and Obama himself for saying janitors in the Capitol will get a pay cut.
House Republicans introduced a bill Monday that would avoid a government shutdown at the end of the month and shift some spending cuts while leaving in place the $85 billion spending reduction that went into effect March 1.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-to-sequester/
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:25 AM   #76
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Does the secret service get paid per assignment? I thought they were on a regular payroll. Silly me.
Extra duty for extra men to cover the guests of President Obama = more money from the budget.

It is called Capitalism, something you have a problem understanding from what I have read of your posts.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:09 PM   #77
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Extra duty for extra men to cover the guests of President Obama = more money from the budget.

It is called Capitalism, something you have a problem understanding from what I have read of your posts.
I'm not sure about this, but I would guess the secret service works in shifts, not overtimes. It's not that hard to arrange. So, yes, I'm pretty sure it's a set payroll.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:20 PM   #78
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I'm not sure about this, but I would guess the secret service works in shifts, not overtimes. It's not that hard to arrange. So, yes, I'm pretty sure it's a set payroll.
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Max Milien, a spokesman for the Secret Service, said officers normally assigned to tours will be reassigned to other security posts at the White House.

"This staffing measure will reduce overtime costs overall and may ultimately reduce the number of potential furloughs necessary by our agency," Milien said.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:46 AM   #79
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Wow, you finally spoke the truth.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:23 AM   #80
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Wow, you finally spoke the truth.
So have you come out of the closet yet? Oh yeah I forgot. You are too drunk to function.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:10 PM   #81
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I'm not sure about this, but I would guess the secret service works in shifts, not overtimes. It's not that hard to arrange. So, yes, I'm pretty sure it's a set payroll.
I am positive the same contingent that guards the President is not enough to guard the President and 20 guests.

Regardless, I see that you are pissing in the wind. I honestly don't know why you make some of the arguments you do. You know before you even start them that you make no sense and you are merely begging that you hit a spot or two with your shotgun at a distance style of debate.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:45 PM   #82
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The ridiculous part of all this talk of layoffs, ect... is that these "cuts" are actually reduction in budget increases from last year. Why do you need to layoff people if your budget is not going to increase as much? Maybe, just not hire more people or expand programs? What am I missing here?
The dirty little secret that neither side talks about. Budget cuts are cuts in growth. The spending this year will NOT be less than in previous years. It is nothing but a scam.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:50 PM   #83
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The dirty little secret that neither side talks about. Budget cuts are cuts in growth. The spending this year will NOT be less than in previous years. It is nothing but a scam.
Memos have been issued, statements have been made in private. You are correct, this sequester is not all damning as made out by the President. But the President NEEDS it to be all damning.

But many invested in the President now feel compelled to support his position even though they know it to be false. Either they have that spouse mentality where you support them even when you know they are wrong, or they don't want to be told they made a mistake when they voted, or they simply are deluded and will follow the man barefoot through every shard of broken glass strewn before them.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:53 PM   #84
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Memos have been issued, statements have been made in private. You are correct, this sequester is not all damning as made out by the President. But the President NEEDS it to be all damning.

But many invested in the President now feel compelled to support his position even though they know it to be false. Either they have that spouse mentality where you support them even when you know they are wrong, or they don't want to be told they made a mistake when they voted, or they simply are deluded and will follow the man barefoot through every shard of broken glass strewn before them.
In the national discussion, they are known as "low information voters"
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:46 PM   #85
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So have you come out of the closet yet?
Why, don't you thelebrate diverthity?
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:19 PM   #86
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Memos have been issued, statements have been made in private. You are correct, this sequester is not all damning as made out by the President. But the President NEEDS it to be all damning.

But many invested in the President now feel compelled to support his position even though they know it to be false. Either they have that spouse mentality where you support them even when you know they are wrong, or they don't want to be told they made a mistake when they voted, or they simply are deluded and will follow the man barefoot through every shard of broken glass strewn before them.
But it isn't just this sequester. This scam has been going on for a long time. And both parties are equally guilty of it. You hear VERY few "true" conservatives in elected office tell the truth about budget cuts. The ability to control is just too much for most people to resist. Term limits is the only solution I see to that problem.
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But it isn't just this sequester. This scam has been going on for a long time. And both parties are equally guilty of it. You hear VERY few "true" conservatives in elected office tell the truth about budget cuts. The ability to control is just too much for most people to resist. Term limits is the only solution I see to that problem.
No. Guilty, yes. Equally guilty, no.
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No. Guilty, yes. Equally guilty, no.

On telling the truth about budget cuts? The difference is negligible.
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Regardless, I see that you are pissing in the wind. I honestly don't know why you make some of the arguments you do. You know before you even start them that you make no sense and you are merely begging that you hit a spot or two with your shotgun at a distance style of debate.


You don't agree or understand my arguments and they are strange to everyone. Got it.

That's ****ing par for the course about the arrogance of the fringe Right assuming they speak for everybody.

BTW, I never expect hard liners on the right to understand the arguments I make.
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In the national discussion, they are known as "low information voters"
Right. WE are the ones who watch Fox news or listen to Sean Limbeck.

(See my last post about RWNJ's arrogance.)

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