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Old 03-01-2013, 09:14 AM  
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:18 PM   #31
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Not sure what you mean here? Schonborn and Benedict are very close, both personally and in many ways philosophically. And when I say "reformer" I'm not talking about anything crazy.. he is still fairly conservative.

In many ways, Schonborn is to Benedict as Benedict was to John Paul II.
Can you give an example of what kind of establishment views he'd stand up to or what kinds of reforms he'd champion? I assume you're not talking about anything radical like women priests or married priests. If you don't have anything in mind, that's OK too.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:23 PM   #32
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Why would a "reformer" who isn't afraid of taking on "establishment views" be a favorite of Benedict's? Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by those terms.
It means he's okay with holding the Body of Christ 10 inches above the altar instead of the usual 12.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #33
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Honestly though, I can see there being reformers in terms of administrative functions. Also, in the sense of something like re-acceptance of Latin Mass extraordinary forms (ushered in by Benedict XVI), that could be taking on the establishment.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:37 PM   #34
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Can you give an example of what kind of establishment views he'd stand up to or what kinds of reforms he'd champion? I assume you're not talking about anything radical like women priests or married priests. If you don't have anything in mind, that's OK too.
No I have a number of specific things in mind... I've been following his career for years now.One of the BIG issues he took on dealt with the abuse scandals in the Church. When Cardinal Sodano(head of the college of cardinals) was dismissive of the reports, Schonborn verbally jumped his ass and the two ended up being called before the pope for a talking to.

He also has been open to other "reforms" like condom use and yes even married priests.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:39 PM   #35
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It means he's okay with holding the Body of Christ 10 inches above the altar instead of the usual 12.
Do your research.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05...s-the-vatican/
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:41 PM   #36
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My suggestion was based on this article combining the Malachy prophesy and a prophesy/dream of Pope Pius X.
I was on my phone trying to read this at work today and couldn't. All of the stuff loading on the side kept resetting the page back to the beginning. That was pretty cool. I never really considered any prophesies when I first heard of the Pope retiring, and it's not something I think about much anyway. What a trip. Thanks for the link.
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I was on my phone trying to read this at work today and couldn't. All of the stuff loading on the side kept resetting the page back to the beginning. That was pretty cool. I never really considered any prophesies when I first heard of the Pope retiring, and it's not something I think about much anyway. What a trip. Thanks for the link.
Yeah, I don't take it seriously, I just thought it was fun. I'm sure some people do take it seriously though and I'm not trying to belittle those who do.
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No I have a number of specific things in mind... I've been following his career for years now.One of the BIG issues he took on dealt with the abuse scandals in the Church. When Cardinal Sodano(head of the college of cardinals) was dismissive of the reports, Schonborn verbally jumped his ass and the two ended up being called before the pope for a talking to.

He also has been open to other "reforms" like condom use and yes even married priests.
I wouldn't mind seeing him elected, he visited my alma mater (Benedictine College) a year or so ago. My money is on Scola, or the darkhorse O'Malley (simply because of his work in Boston cleaning up the mess made by Card. Law).
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