It is safe to assume that we will not draft Joeckel.

[Dante84]

Its now safe to assume we sign Bowe to a long-term deal, barring any unforeseen developments in the contract negotiation process.

This means we have a franchise tag free to use.

Which, in turn, means that it is safe to assume that if we don't get a long term deal figured out with Branden Albert, we can/will franchise him.

This means it is safe to say assume now, that we will not draft Joeckel.

One hurdle (the biggest one, IMO) out of the way for us taking Geno.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by suds79

This.

I freaking wish people or draft gurus wouldn't stop acting like it's impossible for O-linemen to bust.

How many times have we heard "Draft this guy and you're set at (Tackel, Guard, Center) for the next 10 years."

That's ridiculous.

MagicHef has put together the numbers.

Not only are tackles NOT safe (they bust just as much as any other position) the guys can't single-handedly turn their team into a winner. OTs aren't safe, their Fool's Gold.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Joeckel isn't "drafting for the future" anymore than signing Albert is.

EVERY draft pick is a gamble. Ask the Packers if they regret picking Tony Mandarich over Barry Sander and Derrick Thomas.

Drafting Luke Joeckel is one thing, though.

STUPID.

Heard a salient point on 610 the other day, I know but it does occasionally happen, that even if Joeckel is the most solid of sure fire draft picks letting Albert walk and spending the #1 pick on his replacement DOES NOT IMPROVE THE TEAM! At best it’s breaking even.

[PaulAllen]

Biggest fail ever if they pick an OL. what a joke

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Heard a salient point on 610 the other day, I know but it does occasionally happen, that even if Joeckel is the most solid of sure fire draft picks letting Albert walk and spending the #1 pick on his replacement DOES NOT IMPROVE THE TEAM! At best it’s breaking even.

Put it this way:

Joeckel could come in next year and play at an All-Pro level for all 16 games...

And the team could still finish 2-14.

If a QB comes in and plays at an All-Pro level for EIGHT games, we're in the playoffs.

It isn't even worth discussion.

[Deberg_1990]

Love all those playoff apperances Joe Thomas has led the Browns to.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Love all those playoff apperances Joe Thomas has led the Browns to.

Yep.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Put it this way:

Joeckel could come in next year and play at an All-Pro level for all 16 games...

And the team could still finish 2-14.

If a QB comes in and plays at an All-Pro level for EIGHT games, we're in the playoffs.

It isn't even worth discussion.

This is what pisses me off about Mayock. I normally respect the guys opinion but he seems to think the Chiefs should use that #1 to draft one of four OL, i.e. someone that isn’t going to score points.

[Sorter]

Do you think every year during the draft, Joe Thomas just absolutely loses his shit when he's at home?

[Pestilence]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Do you think every year during the draft, Joe Thomas just absolutely loses his shit when he's at home?

I'm sure he's too busy counting his money.

[PaulAllen]

Thomas doesn't give a shit. That ****er didn't even show up for HIS OWN DRAFT.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'm sure he's too busy counting his money.

And then throwing it in fistfuls at his television screaming angrily.

"God dammit!! Brandon Weeden?! You mother****ers I'm never going to see the postseason"