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Old 02-13-2013, 06:50 PM  
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The Obama legacy – it doesn’t look promising

I think Obama should listen to this guy because I think he's right.

The Obama legacy – it doesn’t look promising
By Frank Donatelli
Published February 11, 2013| FoxNews.com

Democrats, Republicans and indeed all American citizens are eagerly anticipating President Obama’s State of the Union Address Tuesday evening, hoping for a clearer picture of what he plans to accomplish before 2017 to cement the Obama legacy.

But as we look toward the next four years, we must not overlook the far-reaching consequences of the president’s actions early in his second term. For starters, his refusal to cement a long term fiscal deal with Republicans is a tell-tale sign that the political and economic environment he’s created does not bode well for the legacy he hopes to leave behind.

He has no more excuses on the deficit.

Obama campaigned for reelection promising to reduce the deficit almost exclusively through tax increases and phony cuts, like ending a war that was already over. Despite his tax increases, US debt is still growing as far and fast as the eye can see. The CBO’s midyear forecast shows this year’s deficit will still be $845 billion, over 5% of GDP.

Worse, the public debt is predicted to be 77% of GDP in 10 years, double the average of the last 40 years, and this despite exceedingly optimistic CBO growth targets never achieved during Obama’s time in office.

When the fed finally stops subsidizing interest rates, government debt payments and entitlements, which Obama also refuses to touch, will consume virtually the entire federal budget in 12 years. The president’s ability to blame this all on his predecessor will only diminish with time.

It's also clear that our commander in chief faces budget warfare for the next four years.

Because he snubbed a comprehensive budget solution, Obama will now have to deal with fiscal issues one at a time. He still faces a $1 trillion sequester, which his own retiring Defense Secretary says will devastate our national defense. Hopefully this worries the president who is after all still our commander in chief.

Next up is a budget resolution and appropriations bills for the coming year plus a need to raise the debt ceiling yet again. There will be no more shortcuts or negotiations with Speaker Boehner.

All of these issues will be handled in regular order.

A balanced, long-term agreement could have taken many of these matters off the table, but the president will now be forced to spend valuable political capital and time for the balance of his term dealing with them individually. Hopefully he’ll still have time to fit in regular appearances on "The View."

The country will remain divided with our major problems unsolved.
It bears mentioning at least once more that Obama began his first term pledging to end legislative gridlock and change the way Washington works. He is destined to end his second term reinforcing both gridlock and partisan division.

His class warfare rhetoric and constant questioning of the motives of his opponents have made him one of the most divisive presidents ever. One example: Before he gave a long-anticipated speech on immigration, one of his second term priorities, the chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus asked him NOT to introduce his own bill, presumably because an Obama immigration bill would be dead on arrival and set back the prospects for bipartisan reform.

Apparently he has also applied that advice to fiscal matters since he has again missed the deadline and failed to submit a presidential budget for this year. -- That actually might be a good thing, however, given that his previous two budgets were rejected by nearly unanimous votes in the Senate.

Some of Obama’s many admirers in the media have compared him to Franklin Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln as an equally historic figure. The better comparison would be with their predecessors, James Buchanan and Herbert Hoover. President Buchanan stood by, watched the Union dissolve and did nothing. President Hoover was overwhelmed by the Great Depression.

Sadly the record will show that despite enormous promise and opportunity, President Obama stood by and watched as America mortgaged its fiscal future and its citizens grew even further apart. The solution to those problems will be the province of our next president.

Frank Donatelli is the Chairman of GOPAC, an organization dedicated to educating and electing a new generation of Republican leaders. He previously served as Political Director for President Ronald Reagan.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...#ixzz2KpkHTBu5
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:00 AM   #31
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:24 AM   #32
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Sadly the record will show that despite enormous promise and opportunity, President Obama stood by and watched as America mortgaged its fiscal future and its citizens grew even further apart. The solution to those problems will be the province of our next president.

Enormous promise and opportunity? I missed that. Hard to see amidst the rubble he inherited. Not that Obama has done a great job in my view, but this article is a partisan hack job, not some kind of insightful commentary.
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Enormous promise and opportunity? I missed that. Hard to see amidst the rubble he inherited. Not that Obama has done a great job in my view, but this article is a partisan hack job, not some kind of insightful commentary.
Well of course it is, it's from the fake right as opposed to the fake left.
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Well of course it is, it's from the fake right as opposed to the fake left.
As opposed to the uninformed junk science guy.
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As opposed to the uninformed junk science guy.
Zachy pooh save us from bad news reporting! You don't have a clue, it's really no way to go through life son.
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If you missed President Obama’s State of the Union address last night, you didn’t miss much – especially if you watched any of his past four State of the Union addresses.



We heard the same recycled rhetoric, and we heard his Orwellian declaration that the cornucopia of new federal programs he proposed, as well as his intention to eradicate world poverty, wouldn’t “increase our deficit by a single dime.”



Of course, he glossed over the inconvenient facts. He boasted about job creation, but didn’t mention that real unemployment is higher today than when he took office. He touted all those still undiscovered “clean energy” jobs without mentioning the tens of thousands of real jobs the Keystone Pipeline will create if he would simply allow it to be built. He sang of new energy development, but didn’t mention that new offshore leases for oil and natural gas drilling have declined a decimating 61% under his administration.



He talked about “helping” to build “a thriving middle class,” but didn’t address how the middle class is actually faring under his economic stewardship. This is important – his deception must be addressed: under his leadership, middle class families have seen the average price per gallon of gas increase 96%, the average cost of family health care premiums rise 24%, the annual cost per household from federal regulations rise to over $15,000, and real median household income decline $4,520. If this is what happens when he “helps” the middle class, then please, Mr. President, we implore you to stop “helping” us.



He talked about a “balanced approach to deficit reduction” without mentioning that $5.9 trillion has already been added to the debt since he took office. We’re $16.5 trillion in debt and he keeps digging the hole deeper! He didn’t mention his record trillion dollar deficits or the fact that his last proposed budget would add $9.2 trillion to the debt through 2022. His Democrat-controlled Senate hasn’t passed a budget in four years. That’s obviously not “responsible” or “balanced.” He said, “We can’t cut our way to prosperity.” Well, we definitely can’t get there by borrowing and spending money we don’t have on his “investments” that don’t work. If indiscriminately borrowing and spending money led to prosperity, then bankruptcy would be a sign of economic strength. But it isn’t.



A State of the Union address should give us a true picture of the direction in which we are headed. But we didn’t get the truth last night. And it WAS Orwellian.



What is the true state of our union? Though this may sound harsh, I’ll speak the truth here. We are a country going bankrupt to fund a bloated, distant, and often corrupt federal government led by venal politicians more concerned with paying off their campaign cronies and consolidating their own power than in preserving the constitutional republic that so many have fought and died for (including our brave men and women in uniform who were barely mentioned last night).



We are a country with an economy being stifled under the weight of a bankrupt and voracious federal machine demanding more taxes and burdensome regulations. Job creators are the ones stuck with the bill when Obama calls for “new revenue.” Their businesses bear the brunt of the nearly 87 million paperwork hours imposed by federal regulations in 2012 – annually costing them $1.75 trillion. And I haven’t even mentioned Obamacare yet, which looms like the dark cloud it is over our private sector. Is it any wonder why our economy is stagnant or why job growth is so anemic? President Obama’s “solution” to these problems is to make the federal government more intrusive, bankrupt, and controlling.



If we continue down the path Barack Obama has us on, the long-term forecast of the state of our union is not a pretty picture. Yet he merrily rolls along it, deceiving too many Americans into thinking that these are intelligent, economic, and ethical proposals.



Our President wasn’t candid with Americans about our forecast, but, interestingly, in a Q&A session last week, Paul Krugman, one of President Obama’s economic cheerleaders at the New York Times, was remarkably candid about where we’re headed.



When asked about our federal debt, he admitted that “eventually we do have a problem” especially because “the population is getting older” and “health care costs are rising.” So, what does he see as the solution to pay for all this? He admits that your taxes will rise. And worse:



“Surely in the end it will require some middle class taxes as well. We won’t be able to pay for the kind of government the society will want without some increase in taxes, not a huge one, but some increase in taxes on the middle class, maybe a value added tax. And we’re also going to have to make decisions about health care – not pay for health care that has no demonstrated medical benefits. So, the snarky version I use, which I shouldn’t even say because it gets me in trouble, is death panels and sales taxes is how we do this.” (But wait, I thought there’d be no such thing as “death panels,” liberal liars?)



Mr. Krugman tried to portray this brave new world in the gentlest possible light, but it’s going to take quite a lot of “sales taxes” to meet the payments on the ever-increasing multi-trillion dollar debt we’re burying our kids and grandkids under. And with health care costs rising under Obamacare, obviously a lot of care will be rationed and even flat out denied by panels of faceless bureaucrats making life and death decisions for you and your loved ones. This is the long-term forecast for the state of America under Obama’s failed policies: middle class taxes and death panels.



Does that sound good to you? It doesn’t to me. So, we better get motivated to do something about it. We’d better get out of our post-election funk and wake up to the radicals’ reality being created as America gets “fundamentally transformed.”



Here’s the good news: President Obama is in many ways a lame duck president. None of his ridiculous ideas will come to pass via the legislative process. Of course, he may try to force them down America’s throat by imposing them through other means. But they can be undone if the right people are in position to undo them. He is very bold right now – some would say cocky – because of his November win, but there is another election around the corner, and we can check his boldness at the ballot box by electing constitutional conservatives. We must continue to affirm the fact that growing our bankrupt federal government is NOT the solution. Most of what the federal government does could be handled better on the individual, local, and state levels.



Our country didn’t weather a Revolution, two World Wars, a Civil War, a Great Depression, and countless other political and economic storms, just to be sunk by the dangerous policies of this current administration. We’re stronger than this. As President Reagan said, “I do not believe in a fate that will fall on us no matter what we do. I do believe in a fate that will fall on us if we do nothing.”



So, do something. 2014 is just around the corner. Get motivated! Get organized. America, don’t retreat. In the words of yet another White House program, “Let’s move.”



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Old 02-20-2013, 07:04 PM   #37
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Enormous promise and opportunity? I missed that. Hard to see amidst the rubble he inherited. Not that Obama has done a great job in my view, but this article is a partisan hack job, not some kind of insightful commentary.
I think the author's intent with that remark was to point out that the 2008 Obama election was historic enough to halt, at least partly, the partisan politics of the previous 16 years. Unfortunately Obama has proven without a doubt he had no intent in doing so, and will historically be remembered as the most divisive president in modern history.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:10 PM   #38
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Even CNN sees trouble ahead for the Obama legacy

Obama can't kick his legacy down the road

By Gloria Borger, CNN Chief Political Analyst
updated 10:30 AM EST, Wed February 20, 2013

(CNN) -- So let's try to recount why we are where we are. In August 2011, Washington was trying to figure out how to raise the debt ceiling -- so the US might continue to pay its bills -- when a stunt was hatched: Kick the can down the road.
And not only kick it down the road, but do it in a way that would eventually force Washington to do its job: Invent a punishment.

If the politicians failed to come up with some kind of budget deal, the blunt instrument of across-the-board cuts in every area would await.

Unthinkable! Untenable!
Until now.
In fact, something designed to be worse than any conceivable agreement is now completely acceptable to many.

And not only are these forced budget cuts considered acceptable, they're even applauded. Some Republicans figure they'll never find a way to get 5% across-the-board domestic spending cuts like this again, so go for it. And some liberal Democrats likewise say 8% cuts in military spending are better than anything we might get on our own, so go for it.

The result: A draconian plan designed to force the two sides to get together has now turned out to be too weak to do that.

And what does that tell us? More about the collapse of the political process than it does about the merits of any budget cuts. Official Washington has completely abdicated responsibility, taking its dysfunction to a new level -- which is really saying something.

We've learned since the election that the second-term president is feeling chipper. With re-election came the power to force Republicans to raise taxes on the wealthy in the fiscal cliff negotiations, and good for him. Americans voted, and said that's what they wanted, and so it happened. Even the most sullen Republicans knew that tax fight had been lost.

Points on the board for the White House.

Now the evil "sequester" -- the forced budget cuts -- looms. And the president proposes what he calls a "balanced" approach: closing tax loopholes on the rich and budget cuts. It's something he knows Republicans will never go for. They raised taxes six weeks ago, and they're not going to do it again now. They already gave at the office. And Republicans also say, with some merit, that taxes were never meant to be a part of the discussion of across-the-board cuts. It's about spending.

Here's the problem: The election is over. Obama won, and he doesn't really have to keep telling us -- or showing us, via staged campaign-style events like the one Tuesday in which he used police officers as props while he opposed the forced spending cuts.

What we're waiting for is the plan to translate victory into effective governance.

Sure, there's no doubt the president has the upper hand. He's right to believe that GOP calls for austerity do not constitute a cohesive party platform. He knows that the GOP has no singular, effective leader, and that its message is unformed. And he's probably hoping that the next two years can be used effectively to further undermine the GOP and win back a Democratic majority in the House.

Slight problem: There's plenty of real work to be done, on the budget, on tax reform, on immigration, climate change and guns. A second-term president has a small window of opportunity. And a presidential legacy is not something that can be kicked down the road.
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Zachy pooh save us from bad news reporting! You don't have a clue, it's really no way to go through life son.
I feel no need to save you.

I like you as you are...wrong and completely marginalized.
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