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The new high speed rail map that's been floating around recently
![]() High speed rail is moving forward in California, but progress is pretty stagnant around the rest of the country. Still, there are a lot of proposals out there, and when placed on one map, they form an impressive rail network. This map was put together by California Rail Map, led by Alfred Twu, which combined existing proposals from high speed rail advocacy groups around the US. Twu described his process for the Guardian: Instead of detailing construction phases and service speeds, I took a little artistic license and chose colors and linked lines to celebrate America's many distinct but interwoven regional cultures. The US High Speed Rail Association, a nonprofit trade association, predicts a network similar to this one could be in place by 2030. Transporation Secretary Ray LaHood has called for a large HSR network, saying it could link 80 percent of Americans within 25 years, for $500 billion. Based on this map, starting in Los Angeles, a high speed train could get to New York, with stops in Denver and Chicago, in well under 18 hours. Considering the significant funding and political will any large rail project needs, it's hard to imagine all this will be built. But Robert Cruickshank at the California High Speed Rail Blog argues just visualizing the network is a good thing: But before the Interstate Highway System was authorized, it had to first be conceptualized on a map. This map gets us closer to the goal of an interstate high speed rail system by showing us what it looks like. And envisioning such a system is the first step toward building it. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/map-o...#ixzz2KSS4Sw1Q |
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I'm a huge fan of HSR but I think it needs to be done with private funds so that we don't end up with countless "trains to nowhere." I have no problem with government subsidies for massive infrastructure ventures like this done primarily with private funds. |
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Looking at the map and it's clear that most of this is complete pie in the sky bullshit. For example, the Chicago to LA run makes no sense. The ONLY leg of that run that is viable is LA to Vegas. No chance in hell the entire route would be more cost effective than flying.
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I don't know what you're trying to say, but I really resent what I think you're implying here. I didn't omit profit. A P&L is a profit/loss. I don't currently own a P&L because I am involved in strategic planning now. That doesn't mean I don't have regular meetings with leadership on my budget, how I'm spending it, and making sure every last dollar is measured. I work with analytics experts all the time. I can promise you that their analytics require a LOT more discipline than just looking at pure profit of a project.
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The reason why I don't like the profit/loss argument is that it doesn't factor all the intangible benefits that you can't put a dollar toward. This transportation system is a SIGNIFICANT positive enabler for businesses. The government may not make profit from that enablement, but it certainly makes the cost much more justifiable. |
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Travel by train is waaay more comfortable then flying, even first class flying. I'd be worth it for the comfort, but the price will ultimately determine if it was viable. For business the speed of air travel is worth extra, but for personal trips it could work. It just seems like a huge investment for an experimental project.
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EDIT: to be clear (in this post) I am talking about routes that are entirely within one state. Last edited by AustinChief; 02-10-2013 at 01:41 AM.. |
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Those prices are usually in the hundreds of dollars to get anywhere. |
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Makes sense in short corridors of high population density. It's perfect for the Northeast, Southern California, Even connecting Chicago, Des Moines, Minneapolis, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, and Detroit would work.
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If you're a business, time is money. And every minute you waste without wifi, in a security line, in a transfer line, or even tired from the inconvenience is money businesses can gain back in massive chunks if HSR gets installed. It is a huge enabler for businesses, especially multi-location businesses. This isn't just for leisure and tourism. This is a great enabler for businesses. Businesses would be able to travel at a significantly lower cost. |
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For short train rides, I see lots of people using it for day trips (e.g. going to a stadium). I also see a LOT of businesspeople using it, as it is cheaper and allows one to be more productive than driving. |
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