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Everything that is right and wrong about immigration debate in one link.
The link: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ployees-Leader
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Immigration reform seems to have a lot of positive momentum, and undocumented immigrants like Vargas can leave the world of shadows and deportations and enter a society where they are fully capable of participating in every way all other Americans and immigrants can. These people are essentially reborn as contributors to society, and just about every metric we have available tells us that bringing these people into the light, along with their talents and their desire to participate legitimately in the American economy, will make us a stronger country. But then there's what's wrong with the debate, and it's in the same link. Here's the second part of the story's title: Quote:
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And even in the face of all the evidence that immigration reform will make our country stronger, and even in the face of the ideals this country was founded on, and even in the face of eleven million people who live essentially a second-tiered existence and put up with that bullshit because it's still better than what they get back home... the GOP base still demands a "deport them all" mindset. I cannot wait for immigration reform to pass and bring these people out of the shadows, and slowly grind away the xenophobia that is driving the "deport them all" mindset over the next generation or two. |
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I'm willing to look at immigration reform for Pulitzer Prize winners, but I'm not promising anything (despite the horrors he must be suffering in his world of shadows).
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I think we can both agree his ability to succeed despite the obstacles of being an undocumented immigrant are the extreme minority.
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Illegal immigration is illegal.
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He was brought here when he was 12.
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Yes, he seems to be a person who would bring something special to our club. I don't think that's a particularly valid reason to invite his 11 million friends to join, though.
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Is that your bar, then? Whomever meets your arbitrary standard of "special"?
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I still have never recieved a good answer to these questions regarding illegal immigration:
If most illegal immigrants do work that most Americans would not do for the same wages, then what's going to happen when everyone is subject to federal minimum wage laws? What then? Do those jobs just disappear? Or is the left ok with some "slave labor"?
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Obviously everybody will have to be paid a legal minimum wage at the very least. When you include them, the economy in just about every study improves, from decently or strongly depending on the study. |
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Yes. I'm not a big fan of retched refuse. It doesn't necessarily have to be "my" standard of special, but I'd be happier if they meet some arbitrary standard of special.
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I don't think anybody's proposing we allow violent criminals among the undocumented population to attain citizenship.
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My standard would be far tougher than simply avoiding involvement in the criminal justice system. Show me how a given individual benefits the U.S. and we can talk.
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Arf! Arf! Arf!
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Your alternative, which is essentially a "Prove Your Worth To Me" Panel, is assinine. |
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