Chiefs The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll - Page 7

Frankie · 02-08-2013, 01:23 PM

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.

**TribalElder** · 02-09-2013, 02:20 AM

LOL

KILLER_CLOWN · 02-09-2013, 02:21 AM

Dayne Crist, yup.

KCrockaholic · 02-09-2013, 02:22 AM

This is why I hate our stupid fanbase.

**007** · 02-09-2013, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan_91

Honestly, I truly hope that we don't draft a QB this year. There isn't a good one out there. The fact that Alex Smith is by far the best option at the position is just sad. Brandon Albert simply isn't a bookend LT like Reid's system requires. He'd be fine as a guard, but he's already publicly stated that he doesn't want to move back to guard. In my opinion, Albert is out. And that makes Joeckel the most logical choice. Geno Smith is a project at best. And frankly, you don't take projects with the number 1 pick. The Raiders made that mistake with JaMarcus Russell.

It doesn't matter who the QB is, if you don't have a good offensive line, you cannot win. Plain and simple. Just ask the Bears. And the Cardinals. And the Chargers. And the Eagles. The Super Bowl this season was evidence of that as well. Both teams had fantastic offensive lines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

This is why I hate our stupid fanbase.

yep

KCrockaholic · 02-09-2013, 02:30 AM

Probably another 2AM troll attempt anyways. At least I hope so.

chiefsfan_91 · 02-09-2013, 02:32 AM

Explain to me how I'm wrong?

KILLER_CLOWN · 02-09-2013, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan_91

Explain to me how I'm wrong?

It's easier to explain how you're wrong, so let me get that out of the way. :YOU ARE TROLL WRONG DUDE, TROLL WRONG!

chiefsfan_91 · 02-09-2013, 02:35 AM

Not a troll. I absolutely hate this year's QB class. I will agree that Geno Smith is the best of them, but that's not saying much. Geno Smith is just a Colt Brennan who played in a real conference. And not even a good real confrence

Ebolapox · 02-09-2013, 02:44 AM

YOU GOTTA PAY THE TROLL TOLL TO GET INTO THIS BOY'S SOUL
YOU GOTTA PAY THE TROLL TOLL TONIGHT

Ebolapox · 02-09-2013, 02:46 AM

chiefsfan_91 · 02-09-2013, 03:00 AM

I'm being absolutely serious. If someone could please show me something that I haven't seen in my own study of Geno Smith, please tell me. All I have seen is terrible footwork, and him hitting guys who were wide open. Honestly, he looked alot like the QB at the school where I coach at. All he did was benefit from a system. Never in his college career did he play in a system even remotely close to the West Coast that Reid runs. In fact, the Air Raid has never produced a Pro Bowl caliber QB. And the only QB out of the system who was taken 1st overall was TIM COUCH. Excuse me for not wanting that...

kcxiv · 02-09-2013, 03:25 AM

Alex Smith will not take the CHIEFS ANYWHERE! If i recall correctly he came from a spread offense as well.

At least with Geno SMith there is some ****ing excitement, hell even Wilson or Barkley. If not, its just going to be another ****ing lame boring 6-10 record or something close give or take a few ****ing wins. AT least with a new QB that record will be with some kind of excitement!

The Chiefs need to do ****ing something to keep the fan base interested. Hell,t his is the first year since i been watching football weekly since 1982 that i was not excited for football sundays! i never thought that day would come.

When your turning the TV to see HOW much your team loses by and not expecting a win, its bad.

Ebolapox · 02-09-2013, 03:25 AM

all of that has been COMPLETELY debunked if you actually give a shit. do a search for 'GENO SMITH,' it's not like there's an actual 'OFFICIAL GENO SMITH THREAD' on the front page.

otherwise, yes--you are a ****ing troll

chiefsfan_91 · 02-09-2013, 03:39 AM

@FruitNinja, I agree with you. We have to do something. But I don't think that should mean that we reach for a 2nd round talent with the first overall pick. Frankly, the only option I like at QB right now isn't even an option; that being praying to the football gods that the Bears don't resign Cutler. And even then, that's a pretty terrible scenario. The fact is that the QB class for the next couple of years is god-awful. In an average year, every QB in first round contention this year would be a 3rd rounder at best. In all honesty, I don't think there's anyway we don't draft a QB in the first 2 rounds. I would just rather do something like the Bengals did and get the better player in the first, and then take the best available QB in the second.

@Ebolapox, I've been through about 20 pages of the draft Geno thread, and found nothing useful. And I have done my research on Geno Smith. And I wasn't impressed. He looked like Colt Brennan to me. He plays in a system that throws the ball on 75% of its snaps, and many of those are high percentage throws like hitches and screens. I just haven't seen anything on the kid that has sold me on him as the number 1 pick

AdumbGuy · 02-09-2013, 03:51 AM

If we're not taking a QB, I want to draft the highest rated punter. With all the punting we're going to be doing, Colquitt will get tired.

View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel	40	31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei	30	23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones	19	14.73%
Other (who, why?)	40	31.01%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

02-08-2013, 01:23 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $5000	The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll Scenario (hypothetical): It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either. There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on: 1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk) 2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut) 3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon) 4- Other (name and explain) KEEP IN MIND This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.
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02-09-2013, 02:21 AM	#92
KILLER_CLOWN Be HEALED!!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pale(Chloros) ville Casino cash: $23281	Dayne Crist, yup. __________________ "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." "If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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02-09-2013, 02:22 AM	#93
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02-09-2013, 02:30 AM	#95
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $16650	Probably another 2AM troll attempt anyways. At least I hope so.
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02-09-2013, 02:32 AM	#96
chiefsfan_91 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $5000	Explain to me how I'm wrong?
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02-09-2013, 02:35 AM	#98
chiefsfan_91 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $5000	Not a troll. I absolutely hate this year's QB class. I will agree that Geno Smith is the best of them, but that's not saying much. Geno Smith is just a Colt Brennan who played in a real conference. And not even a good real confrence
Posts: 19

02-09-2013, 02:44 AM	#99
Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Casino cash: $17008	YOU GOTTA PAY THE TROLL TOLL TO GET INTO THIS BOY'S SOUL YOU GOTTA PAY THE TROLL TOLL TONIGHT
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02-09-2013, 02:46 AM	#100
Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Casino cash: $17008
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02-09-2013, 03:00 AM	#101
chiefsfan_91 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $5000	I'm being absolutely serious. If someone could please show me something that I haven't seen in my own study of Geno Smith, please tell me. All I have seen is terrible footwork, and him hitting guys who were wide open. Honestly, he looked alot like the QB at the school where I coach at. All he did was benefit from a system. Never in his college career did he play in a system even remotely close to the West Coast that Reid runs. In fact, the Air Raid has never produced a Pro Bowl caliber QB. And the only QB out of the system who was taken 1st overall was TIM COUCH. Excuse me for not wanting that...
Posts: 19

02-09-2013, 03:25 AM	#102
kcxiv 37 Scorless Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $28096	Alex Smith will not take the CHIEFS ANYWHERE! If i recall correctly he came from a spread offense as well. At least with Geno SMith there is some **ing excitement, hell even Wilson or Barkley. If not, its just going to be another ing lame boring 6-10 record or something close give or take a few ing wins. AT least with a new QB that record will be with some kind of excitement! The Chiefs need to do **ing something to keep the fan base interested. Hell,t his is the first year since i been watching football weekly since 1982 that i was not excited for football sundays! i never thought that day would come. When your turning the TV to see HOW much your team loses by and not expecting a win, its bad.
Posts: 27,029

02-09-2013, 03:25 AM	#103
Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Casino cash: $17008	all of that has been COMPLETELY debunked if you actually give a shit. do a search for 'GENO SMITH,' it's not like there's an actual 'OFFICIAL GENO SMITH THREAD' on the front page. otherwise, yes--you are a ****ing troll
Posts: 25,908

02-09-2013, 03:39 AM	#104
chiefsfan_91 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $5000	@FruitNinja, I agree with you. We have to do something. But I don't think that should mean that we reach for a 2nd round talent with the first overall pick. Frankly, the only option I like at QB right now isn't even an option; that being praying to the football gods that the Bears don't resign Cutler. And even then, that's a pretty terrible scenario. The fact is that the QB class for the next couple of years is god-awful. In an average year, every QB in first round contention this year would be a 3rd rounder at best. In all honesty, I don't think there's anyway we don't draft a QB in the first 2 rounds. I would just rather do something like the Bengals did and get the better player in the first, and then take the best available QB in the second. @Ebolapox, I've been through about 20 pages of the draft Geno thread, and found nothing useful. And I have done my research on Geno Smith. And I wasn't impressed. He looked like Colt Brennan to me. He plays in a system that throws the ball on 75% of its snaps, and many of those are high percentage throws like hitches and screens. I just haven't seen anything on the kid that has sold me on him as the number 1 pick
Posts: 19

02-09-2013, 03:51 AM	#105
AdumbGuy Starter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Dominica, no seriously. Casino cash: $5000	If we're not taking a QB, I want to draft the highest rated punter. With all the punting we're going to be doing, Colquitt will get tired.
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