ObamaCare: Rotten to the core

[Pam Oliver's Forehead]

Great plan, Mr. President.

What you didn't know about Obama care

Originally Posted by Bornagain?

Each patient now has a time limit to get better. If a patient comes in my clinic with a heart attack; I have 5 days (hypothetical) to get him better. After that the insurance wants me to fix him but not pay a dime. I actually have to give a refund back to the Insurance company. Same shit applies to everything, even patients with psychological problems....who will most likely NEVER get better.

Then they wonder why mother****ers are going out and shooting people up? It's because Obama wants Insurance companies to quadruple their profits at the expense of quality of health being provided to honest hard working Americans. At the same time companies are required to give Insurance to their employees, meaning more profit for insurance companies.

Hospitals are closing all over the place. The one I was born in reported a loss of 14 million last year and is now closing down. Another great hospital is firing 40% of it's doctors soon. Our new system is horrible and discourages good doctors from working inside United States.

Obama has been nothing but a tyrant who has introduced socialism to this country and is slowly taking away our rights. People complained about Bush water boarding three high valued targets now we directly assassinate Americans with no accountability.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Otter

Heh, am I really the only one who had to take a physical for a job? I find that hard to believe.

besides drug tests, nope never taken one for an I.T. Job.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Otter

Heh, am I really the only one who had to take a physical for a job? I find that hard to believe.

Not since the Army.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Otter

Heh, am I really the only one who had to take a physical for a job? I find that hard to believe.

Not just that, but TWO jobs, where:

Originally Posted by Otter

They both included blood pressure, heart (just the listening to the chest thing) and a butt naked look over for scars, needle marks, bite marks...whatever.

Maybe wouldn't be that unusual if your job was physically demanding or something. But an "IT guy" job? Lying sack of shit. And you neg rep me for doubting this crap. They need to send you for a mental exam, nutjob.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Otter

Heh, am I really the only one who had to take a physical for a job? I find that hard to believe.

I've worked 5 different IT jobs in two different states, ranging from K-12 education, university, private company, etc. And I've never once had to take a physical or a drug test.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Fish

I've worked 5 different IT jobs in two different states, ranging from K-12 education, university, private company, etc. And I've never once had to take a physical or a drug test.

A drug test, I would believe. A physical, for a physically demanding job, I would believe. A naked body check and physical for IT job like Otter claims--No.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

A drug test, I would believe. A physical, for a physically demanding job, I would believe. A naked body check and physical for IT job like Otter claims--No.

If life insurance is part of the compensation package I could believe it.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

If life insurance is part of the compensation package I could believe it.

I specifically brought up life insurance and he didn't respond to it. But that is generally between the you and the insurance company. It's a big liability issue for employers to actually know the details of your health. That's why health insurance claims are usually (or should be) handled entirely by an outside company rather than within the employer. If they later have to let you go for some reason, it sets them up for being sued under the Disability Act, among other things.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by FD

Is that what happened when Massachusetts implemented a similar plan?

One of the states with a lot of people leaving. My family who lives there hates Romneycare, because it imposed new tax burdens with healthcare becoming more expensive, less flexible and with longer waits. Per Cato Institute "politicians have managed to hide more than half of its $2 billion cost." Don't forget Romney care has it's share of send-to-Washington tax increases too.

The other thing is the greater Boston area has many large corporations who already provided healthcare. We don't have that here. Still, businesses are finding themselves having to ration care for the part they have to pay.


http://www.cato.org/publications/com...iddleclass-tax

[nstygma]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I specifically brought up life insurance and he didn't respond to it. But that is generally between the you and the insurance company. It's a big liability issue for employers to actually know the details of your health. That's why health insurance claims are usually (or should be) handled entirely by an outside company rather than within the employer. If they later have to let you go for some reason, it sets them up for being sued under the Disability Act, among other things.

he offered you a bet. take him up on it.

[alpha_omega]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

You guys realize Clayton made up every word of the OP, right?

That doesn't surprise me, but where does Goatse say he made it up? I didn't see it in this thread, unless I missed it.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by nstygma

he offered you a bet. take him up on it.

The one where I have to prove his claims are false? The one where he suggests I call his company's HR dept and ask if they require a naked body inspection for an IT job? I didn't take that seriously.

You believe his story?

[Otter]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

A drug test, I would believe. A physical, for a physically demanding job, I would believe. A naked body check and physical for IT job like Otter claims--No.

Put your money where your fat mouth is cum stain.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Otter

Put your money where your fat mouth is cum stain.

I bet you eleventy jillion dollars.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I bet you eleventy jillion dollars.

He offered to prove it if you are willing to bet. If you are so sure why don't you call the bet?

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by RNR

He offered to prove it if you are willing to bet. If you are so sure why don't you call the bet?

No, he didn't offer to prove it--he offered me his company contact info and I'd have to disprove it...or something...I guess. He wasn't real clear.

I think his story is bullshit. If he wants to insist it is true--fine. He just looks like an ass is all. If he thinks he can prove it, then he should stop dicking around and just do so.