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Old 02-07-2013, 11:08 AM  
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Gun owners - follow up to the poll on safes being required

The banning of "assault" weapons is right out. The banning of large capacity magazines is out. Registration of guns is out. Judging by the response in the poll... mandatory securing of a weapon when not in use is out.

I firmly believe that curbing gun violence in the US begins with education and the enforcement of existing laws. That said... is there any compromise to be had on the gun owner side of the argument?

If you are a gun owner... what would you be willing to compromise to find middle ground on this debate?
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:42 PM   #46
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The banning of "assault" weapons is right out. The banning of large capacity magazines is out. Registration of guns is out. Judging by the response in the poll... mandatory securing of a weapon when not in use is out.

I firmly believe that curbing gun violence in the US begins with education and the enforcement of existing laws. That said... is there any compromise to be had on the gun owner side of the argument?

If you are a gun owner... what would you be willing to compromise to find middle ground on this debate?
I'm in favor of this law.

Mostly because gun safes are friggen expensive and I'm fairly confident that the gubbamint will issue some nice tax credits if they pass this law to go towards the purchase of a safe.

I'm going to get one anyway (afterall, I really don't need my child shooting himself or my guns to get stolen), so if the brilliant folks in Washington could figure out a way to 'protect our citizens' while making this cost-effective for me, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:43 PM   #47
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The NRA will be thrilled to supply any gun owner with safety traing materials. They have an excellent publication for parents on home gun safety and children its free in print or online. Amazing! What you propose is already available with no government action
Will they drive over to your home and stand over your shoulder and talk to you while you handle the firearm as well? You can't ask literature questions.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:44 PM   #48
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I see the miscommunication. I stated the FFL dealer would be required to make the class available as part of the cost of the weapon... not that it would be a requirement of purchase.

The cost of the class, to the FFL, would likely be offset by the purchases of peripherals like safes, holsters, snap caps, defensive ammunition and the such.
No, I understood where you were going but we already have safety courses available, not necessarily through an FFL but through a local range or like HC mentioned through the NRA, that’s why I was working from the “requirement to purchase a gun” angle.
That and you’re topic was getting a bit derailed and I was hoping to help move it along.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:44 PM   #49
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Capone...compromises have already been made.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:09 PM   #50
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A gun safe could very well have prevented Newton.

If I need access to my guns in a quick manner, I will have no problem doing so. My safe is biometric meaning that I don't have to fumble with keys or combinations. I understand that not everyone has a safe like that.
I can get into your "RSC" in less than 10 minutes, probably 5. Just how secure does that make it?
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:13 PM   #51
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Shit...I safe mine every morning and remove it from the safe every night before bed time. I'll be damned if some shit bag is going to steal my stuff.
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Old 02-07-2013, 04:28 PM   #52
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I'm going to get one anyway (afterall, I really don't need my child shooting himself or my guns to get stolen), so if the brilliant folks in Washington could figure out a way to 'protect our citizens' while making this cost-effective for me, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Just tell your child not to touch. Problem solved.

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Old 02-07-2013, 05:15 PM   #53
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If you don't lock your guns up, you deserve whatever you get. If you have unsecured guns in a home with kids, you're simply crazy.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:17 PM   #54
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YEAH!!! MORE LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:18 PM   #55
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:19 PM   #56
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:28 PM   #57
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:33 PM   #59
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Did you have anything to say beyond Pete/Como level stupidity? All I'm saying is that not locking your guns up opens you up to a world of liability. It's pretty goddamn stupid. I don't need a law to tell me what common sense already does. I'll now leave you to your "YEAH MORE LAWS" bullshit level of discussion.
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You mean your '88 Ford Taurus? Like the glove box has a lock on it? Better than nothing I guess.
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