ObamaCare: Rotten to the core

[Hammock Parties]

Great plan, Mr. President.

What you didn't know about Obama care

Originally Posted by Bornagain?

Each patient now has a time limit to get better. If a patient comes in my clinic with a heart attack; I have 5 days (hypothetical) to get him better. After that the insurance wants me to fix him but not pay a dime. I actually have to give a refund back to the Insurance company. Same shit applies to everything, even patients with psychological problems....who will most likely NEVER get better.

Then they wonder why mother****ers are going out and shooting people up? It's because Obama wants Insurance companies to quadruple their profits at the expense of quality of health being provided to honest hard working Americans. At the same time companies are required to give Insurance to their employees, meaning more profit for insurance companies.

Hospitals are closing all over the place. The one I was born in reported a loss of 14 million last year and is now closing down. Another great hospital is firing 40% of it's doctors soon. Our new system is horrible and discourages good doctors from working inside United States.

Obama has been nothing but a tyrant who has introduced socialism to this country and is slowly taking away our rights. People complained about Bush water boarding three high valued targets now we directly assassinate Americans with no accountability.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I was having a conversation earlier today with some senior business types who think Obamacare will result in a massive change in how employers handle employees, with many effectively switching to a multiple part-time employee system, shared-shifts (or whatever it's called, when you've got one person who works mornings, and another who works afternoons), all with the goal of avoiding the minimum hours worked thresholds that trigger the requirements on employers.

that's a good thing /obamacare defenders

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I was having a conversation earlier today with some senior business types who think Obamacare will result in a massive change in how employers handle employees, with many effectively switching to a multiple part-time employee system, shared-shifts (or whatever it's called, when you've got one person who works mornings, and another who works afternoons), all with the goal of avoiding the minimum hours worked thresholds that trigger the requirements on employers.

I have been reading this from multiple sources as well.

[FD]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I was having a conversation earlier today with some senior business types who think Obamacare will result in a massive change in how employers handle employees, with many effectively switching to a multiple part-time employee system, shared-shifts (or whatever it's called, when you've got one person who works mornings, and another who works afternoons), all with the goal of avoiding the minimum hours worked thresholds that trigger the requirements on employers.

Is that what happened when Massachusetts implemented a similar plan?

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I was having a conversation earlier today with some senior business types who think Obamacare will result in a massive change in how employers handle employees, with many effectively switching to a multiple part-time employee system, shared-shifts (or whatever it's called, when you've got one person who works mornings, and another who works afternoons), all with the goal of avoiding the minimum hours worked thresholds that trigger the requirements on employers.

Indeed. And employees getting physcilly screened before being hired and instead of getting rejected by the insurance company for coverage they'll get rejected for employment.

It's going to become a lot easier to be poor and one of the have nots, that be one of the people towing the line. What's the threashold most people are willing to endure before they say "**** it" and become part of the problem?

I'm guessing just about everyone whose income rides in the under ~ $25k per year. That's only about 30% of the country though so nothing to worry about.

God bless bum **** barry!

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Otter

Indeed. And employees getting physcilly screened before being hired and instead of getting rejected by the insurance company for coverage they'll get rejected for employment.

Yeah...this doesn't make sense for several reasons. Not happening.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Yeah...this doesn't make sense for several reasons. Not happening.

Really? I had to take a physical for both my jobs previous to the one I'm at now since graduating college. And the one at I'm at now is a start up so it's a little different story. They both included blood pressure, heart (just the listening to the chest thing) and a butt naked look over for scars, needle marks, bite marks...whatever. It's how I found out I had a tiny umbilical hernia actually.

How is it "not happening"? Is you savior going to apply more regulations that say you can't physical screen people or that you have to hire sick people? Ya know, to create more jobs and all. You stupid ****s are going to regulate the country out of relevance .

It's really easy to say "we found a more qualified candidate" after the tests come back.

Not going to hang out and argue with you because I know you think nothing is wrong, all things barry is good and the AHA is the best thing since Victoria Secrets girls. My solace is knowing you clows are going down with us.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Otter

Really? I had to take a physical for both my jobs previous to the one I'm at now since graduating college. And the one at I'm at now is a start up so it's a little different story. They both included blood pressure, heart (just the listening to the chest thing) and a butt naked look over for scars, needle marks, bite marks...whatever. It's how I found out I had a tiny umbilical hernia actually.

How is it "not happening"? Is you savior going to apply more regulations that say you can't physical screen people or that you have to hire sick people? Ya know, to create more jobs.

It's really easy to say "we found a more qualified candidate" after the tests come back.

Well, what was the job? Sounds like you are talking about a pretty specialized postion or else the rejected applicants have a pretty easy lawsuit. For 99% of jobs, they don't require you to strip naked and have a physical. Are you a prono actor or perhaps an NFL quarterback?

And, IF this was happening for some particular job, Obamacare would have nothing to do with it or give any incentive for an employer to do it. If you had some physical ailment, the employer has incentive to not hire you with Obamacare, before Obamacare, or if they aren't even offering insurance.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Well, what was the job? Sounds like you are talking about a pretty specialized postion or else the rejected applicants have a pretty easy lawsuit. For 99% of jobs, they don't require you to strip naked and have a physical. Are you a prono actor or perhaps an NFL quarterback?

And, IF this was happening for some particular job, Obamacare would have nothing to do with it or give any incentive for an employer to do it. If you had some physical ailment, the employer has incentive to not hire you with Obamacare, before Obamacare, or if they aren't even offering insurance.

I'm an IT guy not a "prono" actor (since you enjoy pointing out other people's misspellings so much) or an NFL QB but I do play flag football and disc golf quiet a bit.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Otter

I'm an IT guy not a "prono" actor (since you enjoy pointing out other people's misspellings so much) or an NFL QB but I do play flag football and disc golf quiet a bit.

An IT guy. And they stripped you naked to look for "scars, needle marks, bite marks...?" They required as part of getting the job to check your blood pressure and heart condition?

Either you're not mentioning some very important and relevant job aspects, the employer is ****ing nuts, or this is complete

And, as I said before, I don't see how any of this would have anything to do with Obamacare.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

An IT guy. And they stripped you naked to look for "scars, needle marks, bite marks...?" They required as part of getting the job to check your blood pressure and heart condition?

Either you're not mentioning some very important and relevant job aspects, the employer is ****ing nuts, or this is complete

And, as I said before, I don't see how any of this would have anything to do with Obamacare.

The medical examination was after the job offer was accepted which I didn't mention but I assure you they occured. And to be totally honest I was wearing one of those paper gowns and not completly naked.

[DaveNull]

Originally Posted by Otter

Really? I had to take a physical for both my jobs previous to the one I'm at now since graduating college. And the one at I'm at now is a start up so it's a little different story. They both included blood pressure, heart (just the listening to the chest thing) and a butt naked look over for scars, needle marks, bite marks...whatever. It's how I found out I had a tiny umbilical hernia actually.

How is it "not happening"? Is you savior going to apply more regulations that say you can't physical screen people or that you have to hire sick people? Ya know, to create more jobs and all. You stupid ****s are going to regulate the country out of relevance .

It's really easy to say "we found a more qualified candidate" after the tests come back.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Otter

The medical examination was after the job offer was accepted which I didn't mention but I assure you they occured. And to be totally honest I was wearing one of those paper gowns and not completly naked.

Did you happen to ask why they had to anally probe you in order to make sure you were fit for your IT job?

Did this medical exam happen to be related to a LIFE INSURANCE policy? For some life insurance policies available through employers, the insurance company wants to make sure you aren't about to die. That is the only way this tale makes any sense.

[Mr. Kotter]

You guys realize Clayton made up every word of the OP, right?

Lameass ideologue sheeples make for some fun trolling....

Well done, Clay....

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

You guys realize Clayton made up every word of the OP, right?

Did he? Really?

[Otter]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

For 99% of jobs, they don't require you to strip naked

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

An IT guy. And they stripped you naked

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Did you happen to ask why they had to anally probe you in order to make sure you were fit for your IT job?

You have no ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing anyone for lack of rational argument you troll....none.